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The Original 12 Duchal Families and Today?
« on: May 15, 2009, 12:50:36 PM »
Hi

I can't remember off the top of my head, what were the original 12 duchies called?

Realm - Original Family - Current Family
Brosengae?
Taeghas?
Boeruine
Avanil
Alamie
Ghoried
Diemed
Mhoried
Elinie
Osoerde
Aerenwe?
Talinie?
Dhoesone?
Cariele?

Help?  :)
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Re: The Original 12 Duchal Families and Today?
« Reply #1 on: May 15, 2009, 01:15:19 PM »
Found something:

TRIBES      COUNTRY      DUCHIES
Anwe        Roele/Avan   Avanil
Boru        Boeruine     Boeruine
Mhora       Mhoried      Mhoried
Elaime      Alamie       Alamie
Deretha     Diemed       Diemed
Aeren       Aerenwe      Aerenwe
Bheallach   Bhalaene     (Ghoere)
Elin        Elinie       Elinie
Brosen      Brosengae    Osoerde ??
Gehaiste    Ghieste      (Ghoere)
Duireina    Taeghas      Taeghas
Carel       Cariele      Cariele
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Re: The Original 12 Duchal Families and Today?
« Reply #2 on: May 15, 2009, 01:25:48 PM »
Not applicable to RoE.

This was used in RoE I

http://ruinsofempire.twilightpeaks.net/forums/index.php?topic=77.0
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Re: The Original 12 Duchal Families and Today?
« Reply #3 on: May 15, 2009, 01:34:00 PM »
Irrelevant.

EDIT: Now reading Bjorns post, much better, thanks.
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Re: The Original 12 Duchal Families and Today?
« Reply #4 on: May 15, 2009, 01:37:23 PM »
Why did I make this?

Because it IMO made no sense that A) Anuire was settled by exactly 12 groups 500 years before Deismaar AND B) Got made into the very same power blocks by Roele after Deismaar.

It just plain lame.

In RoE there were 5 major groups (HOUSES) that settled Cerilia:

The first House of the Andu was Aenwé (the House of Haelyn and Roele), who settled first on the coast (near modern-day IC) and later along the lower reaches of the River Maesil (Avanil, Maesil part of Diemed etc.)

The second House of the Andu was Boru, who sailed west into the Sea of Storms and settled along the coast and rivers of the West Coast.

The third House of the Andu was Caethran, who settled along the shores of the Gulf of Coreanys and along the Berendor River.

The fourth House of the Andu was Adethan (including the Elamie and the Mhora), who followed the Maesil to its sources and settled along the rivers and highlands they found there.

The fifth, and last, was House Deretha, who initially settled along the South Coast, but later penetrated into the Heartlands.

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Re: The Original 12 Duchal Families and Today?
« Reply #5 on: May 15, 2009, 01:48:46 PM »
Roger that!

So, the lands known as "12 duchies" are in ROE2:

Diemed
Aerenwe - Ruled by the Swordwraiths. Aeren line though to be extinct, until a rumor surfaced that MC of the ETN has this lineage.
Avanil
Alamie
Mhoried
Boeruine
Taeghas - Long extinct line. Ruled by Aburae Avan.
Ghieste - Merged with Dhalaene to form Ghoere, now re-emerged. (disputed bloodline)
Dhalaene - Merged with Ghieste to form Ghoere. Now vanished. (or not in power)
Osoerde - Bloodline destroyed, then re-awakened by divine intervention and granted to William Osoer (name changed after event)
Elinie - Elin family turned to Azrai, Daouta destroyed them, rewarded with title by Emperor.
Cariele - Not called Duchy today, Scions distantly related to the line living in Coeranys (i.e. the current Baroness is of this line)
Talinie - Purchased title and lands.

So all of the above are the "duchies". Any comments on disputed bloodlines?

Included Bjørns notes.
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Re: The Original 12 Duchal Families and Today?
« Reply #6 on: May 15, 2009, 02:06:22 PM »
Aerenwe - Ruled by the Swordwraiths. Aeren line though to be extinct, until a rumor surfaced that MC of the ETN has this lineage.

Taeghas - Long extinct line. Ruled by Aburae Avan.

Cariele - Scions distantly related to the line living in Coeranys (i.e. the current Baroness is of this line)
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Re: The Original 12 Duchal Families and Today?
« Reply #7 on: May 15, 2009, 08:48:03 PM »

OoC:

If I am not mistaken, in the context of RoE, neither Talinie nor Brosengae is one of the twelve, technically speaking.


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Re: The Original 12 Duchal Families and Today?
« Reply #8 on: May 16, 2009, 06:07:14 AM »

OoC:

If I am not mistaken, in the context of RoE, neither Talinie nor Brosengae is one of the twelve, technically speaking.



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Re: The Original 12 Duchal Families and Today?
« Reply #9 on: May 16, 2009, 09:21:24 AM »
Why did I make this?

Because it IMO made no sense that A) Anuire was settled by exactly 12 groups 500 years before Deismaar AND B) Got made into the very same power blocks by Roele after Deismaar.

I always figured that it was a ret-con, the 12 houses Roele formed into power blocks were retrospectively deemed to have been the 12 great houses leading the exodus...  heroes now as for generations sort of thing.
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Re: The Original 12 Duchal Families and Today?
« Reply #10 on: May 16, 2009, 03:41:02 PM »
Perhaps, the victors do write the history, so it could be done.
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