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Re: P&H #69 uploaded - Feedback in this thread please
« on: January 07, 2011, 06:34:05 AM »
It seems that current boring bonus from Sahdow Ward may be missing in Nortmoor, Sorelies and Hildon in Alamie, and possibly Illien, but Illien's prosperity is so stupid (beause I am envious) that I may be wrong.

There is already a +1 bonus in effect from Bless Land, so there is no additional prosperity benefit from Shadow Ward (bonus do not stack).
I've been having a think about this and it's been niggling me.

Currently the Shadow Ward bonus is a permanent +1 to prosperity, while the Bless Land bonus is a temporary +1 to prosperity.

It's similiar to the effect of Agitate and No Taxes. The Agitate bonus is applied first as a permanent change and then the No Taxes temporary bonus papers over the top.

Possibly another reason to change the Shadow Ward spell (to remove the ambiguity).
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Re: Re: P&H #69 uploaded - Feedback in this thread please
« Reply #1 on: January 07, 2011, 09:04:53 AM »
It seems that current boring bonus from Sahdow Ward may be missing in Nortmoor, Sorelies and Hildon in Alamie, and possibly Illien, but Illien's prosperity is so stupid (beause I am envious) that I may be wrong.

There is already a +1 bonus in effect from Bless Land, so there is no additional prosperity benefit from Shadow Ward (bonus do not stack).
I've been having a think about this and it's been niggling me.

Currently the Shadow Ward bonus is a permanent +1 to prosperity, while the Bless Land bonus is a temporary +1 to prosperity.

It's similiar to the effect of Agitate and No Taxes. The Agitate bonus is applied first as a permanent change and then the No Taxes temporary bonus papers over the top.

Possibly another reason to change the Shadow Ward spell (to remove the ambiguity).

Say again? Permanent bonus?
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Re: Re: P&H #69 uploaded - Feedback in this thread please
« Reply #2 on: January 07, 2011, 09:20:05 AM »
Say again? Permanent bonus?

I just reread the Shadow Ward spell discussion and it was Alan who suggested that it was a permanent bonus. My bad.

Scratch my comments.
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Re: Re: P&H #69 uploaded - Feedback in this thread please
« Reply #3 on: January 07, 2011, 09:43:21 AM »
Alan should know better 8)

The spell description is old and poorly worded. The prosperity bonus ends when the spell ends.
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Re: Re: P&H #69 uploaded - Feedback in this thread please
« Reply #4 on: January 07, 2011, 09:55:19 AM »
Alan should know better 8)

The spell description is old and poorly worded. The prosperity bonus ends when the spell ends.

Good Point.  Sometimes even I get confused by the descriptions.

I have a new general rule though...

If the spell helps you, then its bonuses are temporary, if the spell harms you then usually it is permenant.

It is easier to tear things down then build them up afterall.



What do you think, B? ;)  Sound about right thematically? :)
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Re: Re: P&H #69 uploaded - Feedback in this thread please
« Reply #5 on: January 07, 2011, 10:46:55 AM »
MUCH better!

(though not ALL harmful effects are permanent)
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Re: Re: P&H #69 uploaded - Feedback in this thread please
« Reply #6 on: January 07, 2011, 02:59:33 PM »
Hi guys,

Not to be a party pooper or anything, but I am watching this thread vigorously for changes to the P&H. - May I ask you to move the spell design discussion to the spell design forum? :-)

Thanks!
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