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Re: RP cost of designating an heir to a domain
« Reply #15 on: March 23, 2011, 07:54:30 pm »
I can't recall any player actually designating a REAL heir for his domain. Naming one through decree, sure, investiture...no.
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Re: RP cost of designating an heir to a domain
« Reply #16 on: March 23, 2011, 07:56:45 pm »
Um....I did it in turn 68 using the investiture action and it was a success, but again only for the provinces and law holdings (ie. the governorship) not guild or trade holdings (ie. the guildmaster position)
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Re: RP cost of designating an heir to a domain
« Reply #17 on: March 23, 2011, 07:57:38 pm »
I can't recall any player actually designating a REAL heir for his domain. Naming one through decree, sure, investiture...no.

Would you be willing to rethink the rules then, to promote more usage of the action? I assume you would like me to do a proper designation, considering you informed me in my DO that my decree wasn't all that useful without an investiture.
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Re: RP cost of designating an heir to a domain
« Reply #18 on: March 23, 2011, 09:30:37 pm »
Um....I did it in turn 68 using the investiture action and it was a success, but again only for the provinces and law holdings (ie. the governorship) not guild or trade holdings (ie. the guildmaster position)

And you're as close as anyone has gotten. But you plan on doing it in increments, right?
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Re: RP cost of designating an heir to a domain
« Reply #19 on: March 23, 2011, 10:14:25 pm »
I can't recall any player actually designating a REAL heir for his domain. Naming one through decree, sure, investiture...no.

Brandon, #68, did it. Paid in full too.

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Re: RP cost of designating an heir to a domain
« Reply #20 on: March 24, 2011, 12:32:39 am »
If you want to tweak the cost make it 1 per holding or province.

Still high for those big domains but not as high.

Or you could have a discounting scheme, based on the position of the heir in the already established heirachy.
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Re: RP cost of designating an heir to a domain
« Reply #21 on: March 24, 2011, 07:02:40 am »
Bigger domain having to pay more than small domains seems ok in my book. They tend to have more resources and can thus afford it.
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Re: RP cost of designating an heir to a domain
« Reply #22 on: March 24, 2011, 08:02:08 am »
But I don't want to tweak the rule. Its is quite fine as it is.

I'd forgotten about the PETG.
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Re: RP cost of designating an heir to a domain
« Reply #23 on: March 24, 2011, 08:17:27 am »
But I don't want to tweak the rule. Its is quite fine as it is.

I strongly disagree, but ok. I got my answer, so I'll have to adjust my plans accordingly.
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Re: RP cost of designating an heir to a domain
« Reply #24 on: March 24, 2011, 08:43:01 am »
What you should do now, after your decree, is invest you Heir with PART of your domain. I.e. if he's the Archbishop of Tuornen then you invest him with those holdings. Then later you can invest the rest, or leave it and let history play itself out - chances are good that with part of the domain already invested the heir can gather the rest behind him.
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Re: RP cost of designating an heir to a domain
« Reply #25 on: March 24, 2011, 09:24:58 am »
What you should do now, after your decree, is invest you Heir with PART of your domain. I.e. if he's the Archbishop of Tuornen then you invest him with those holdings. Then later you can invest the rest, or leave it and let history play itself out - chances are good that with part of the domain already invested the heir can gather the rest behind him.

There could be a problem with it. When there is no heir, the domain will probably remain as is, only regentless, and then there is searching/competition for new regent that would take the whole domain (as in Roesone or Boeruine in this game). When the designated heir inherits only part, the domain is effectively split, the rest of holdings/provinces either forming another domain or going uncontrolled. Then the chances of reconstruction of the domain in its previous shape might be slimmer than without designed heir.

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Re: RP cost of designating an heir to a domain
« Reply #26 on: March 24, 2011, 09:42:39 am »
What you should do now, after your decree, is invest you Heir with PART of your domain. I.e. if he's the Archbishop of Tuornen then you invest him with those holdings. Then later you can invest the rest, or leave it and let history play itself out - chances are good that with part of the domain already invested the heir can gather the rest behind him.

Would it also help to have major vassals recognise the heir ahead of time, considering that some of the lands choice is perception. Having say the CJS recognise after the WIT decree that so-and-so is the righful heir would reinforce the perception that they are heir to all rather than part of the domain.
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Re: RP cost of designating an heir to a domain
« Reply #27 on: March 24, 2011, 09:44:17 am »
What you should do now, after your decree, is invest you Heir with PART of your domain. I.e. if he's the Archbishop of Tuornen then you invest him with those holdings. Then later you can invest the rest, or leave it and let history play itself out - chances are good that with part of the domain already invested the heir can gather the rest behind him.

Would it also help to have major vassals recognise the heir ahead of time, considering that some of the lands choice is perception. Having say the CJS recognise after the WIT decree that so-and-so is the righful heir would reinforce the perception that they are heir to all rather than part of the domain.

Absolutely.
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Re: RP cost of designating an heir to a domain
« Reply #28 on: March 25, 2011, 12:29:43 pm »
You could also consider making the naming of an heir into a minor agenda, some realms already have it, but considering the total cost, it's worthy of a minor agenda status (though the DM's may demand additional content for it to succeed.)

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Re: RP cost of designating an heir to a domain
« Reply #29 on: March 25, 2011, 12:48:02 pm »
Some specific details concerning the heir to be; I made some level, allignment and BS tresholds all in a nice package deal and turned it into a minor agenda. Then multiple advisor actions etc, hiring of NPCs to assist with stuff and so on + some fluff. Bjørn accepted that as a minor agenda.

It worked for IHH domain as far as getting accepted as a minor agenda
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