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Re: P&H draft
« Reply #30 on: November 11, 2008, 08:59:17 pm »
And that is clearly because Alamie is such a lovely place! The latest in tourist resorts!

Maybe I'll have to visit!  Sounds wonderful. :)
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Re: P&H draft
« Reply #31 on: November 11, 2008, 09:42:58 pm »
We could take a picnic, make a real trip of it!
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Re: P&H draft
« Reply #32 on: November 11, 2008, 10:31:29 pm »
Note that calculation of domain maintenance will be different this time - based upon total level not number of holdings/provinces. Hopefully it will ease bookkeeping tremendously.

Doesn't this also substanially increase the cost of a domain?   A realm like the IHH goes from being 3-4 GB a season to maintain, to 7-8 GB per season (assuming that the maintainence chart remains the same).
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Re: P&H draft
« Reply #33 on: November 11, 2008, 10:41:02 pm »
New table

TABLE 4-6: DOMAIN MAINTENANCE
# Provinces and Holdings   Maintenance Cost
1-5           0GB
6-10           0,5GB
11-15   1GB
16-20   2GB
21-25   3GB
26-30   4GB
31-35   5GB
36-40   6GB
41-45   7GB
46-50   8GB
51-55   9GB
56-60   10GB
61-100   1GB per 5 levels
101+   1GB per 4 levels
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Re: P&H draft
« Reply #34 on: November 12, 2008, 10:37:39 am »
We could take a picnic, make a real trip of it!

People are welcome! Although such a resort can become quite quickly over-expensive.

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Re: P&H draft
« Reply #35 on: November 12, 2008, 11:05:03 am »
I am sure we can do something in the form of package deals....
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Re: P&H draft
« Reply #36 on: November 12, 2008, 06:48:42 pm »
New table

TABLE 4-6: DOMAIN MAINTENANCE
# Provinces and Holdings   Maintenance Cost
1-5           0GB
6-10           0,5GB
11-15   1GB
16-20   2GB
21-25   3GB
26-30   4GB
31-35   5GB
36-40   6GB
41-45   7GB
46-50   8GB
51-55   9GB
56-60   10GB
61-100   1GB per 5 levels
101+   1GB per 4 levels

Thank you!
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Re: P&H draft
« Reply #37 on: November 12, 2008, 07:14:32 pm »
Those pesky guilds with their guild AND trade holdings are sure racking up their domain upkeep :)
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Re: P&H draft
« Reply #38 on: November 12, 2008, 08:52:52 pm »
I vote for special rules for guilds!
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Re: P&H draft
« Reply #39 on: November 12, 2008, 08:54:47 pm »
I vote for special rules for guilds!

There *are* special rules for guilds... it's called Taxation!  ;D

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Re: P&H draft
« Reply #40 on: November 13, 2008, 02:34:43 pm »
Draft 3 is out. It covers the Heartlands.

Draft 4 will work out the rest of the out-of-play areas (West Coast, Northern Marches and Kiergard).

Draft 5 will include various minor edits, tweaks and fixes (some reported in by you, the players)

I hope to have Draft 5 ready by Sunday. If you have any ideas or comments (if you think soemthing doesn't make sens, or if you have an idea you think will make the game even better), they should be handed in by them. Feel free to report errors after that - but I won't be taking any player input after that date.

The final non-draft version will be made available once the game starts (there might be some minor changes based on what comes up while editing the remaining PS docs).

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Re: P&H draft
« Reply #41 on: November 13, 2008, 08:02:30 pm »
The "Total Income" calculations on the Regions pages have an error in the variable income lookup function.  It's searching cells A2:A12 and B2:B12 on the income pages, but needs to go up to A21 and B21; otherwise, any roll higher than 10 is simply ignored because the function can't find the required value.

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« Reply #42 on: November 14, 2008, 05:10:20 am »
All of the Dual Holding Domains (TrB & BC, Ghieste & HOT, etc) have the income of their holdings added strangely.  The income from law holdings is treated properly, while all other income is added in AFTER stability/variable income is taken into account.

In effect, part of the income will not suffer the effects of domain stability/variable income.

For instance on the South Coast tab for Arron Vaumel, Cell R4 should be =MIERES!D63+O36

While cell O4 should be =(R4*LOOKUP(Q4,Stability!A$2:A$9,Stability!C$2:C$9))*LOOKUP(P4,Income!A$2:A$21,Income!B$2:B$21)+S4-T4+U4-V4 (notice that the variable income lookup has been fixed--that is wrong throughout the entire spreadsheet, I suggest using 'Replace' to change that)

Basically, he started with 58 GB, but the -3 stability was not being applied to the income from the SAS.  His income should be something like 47.8 GB.

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Re: P&H draft
« Reply #43 on: November 14, 2008, 05:19:19 am »
All of the Dual Holding Domains (TrB & BC, Ghieste & HOT, etc) have the income of their holdings added strangely.  The income from law holdings is treated properly, while all other income is added in AFTER stability/variable income is taken into account.

In effect, part of the income will not suffer the effects of domain stability/variable income.

For instance on the South Coast tab for Arron Vaumel, Cell R4 should be =MIERES!D63+O36

While cell O4 should be =(R4*LOOKUP(Q4,Stability!A$2:A$9,Stability!C$2:C$9))*LOOKUP(P4,Income!A$2:A$21,Income!B$2:B$21)+S4-T4+U4-V4 (notice that the variable income lookup has been fixed--that is wrong throughout the entire spreadsheet, I suggest using 'Replace' to change that)

Basically, he started with 58 GB, but the -3 stability was not being applied to the income from the SAS.  His income should be something like 47.8 GB.

Of course, this is only the case if those dual holding domains are not getting variable incomes for each holding type...

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Re: P&H draft
« Reply #44 on: November 14, 2008, 05:27:17 am »
The province of Bellam is still using the Roesone taxation system - no manor taxes and half Trade taxes.  I don't know if this is intentional or not - if not, Osoer is losing out on some of my hard-earned money.

Speaking of Osoer, the IR's column on the Eastern Marches page indicates Osoer is paying him 2 GB a season, but Osoer's column doesn't show it being taken out.