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: MIRROR - To see the Obelisk of Thenial
: X-EOM/SS (Marco) May 27, 2009, 09:53:27 AM
Seems we're in a bad situation.

Guys, i'm feeling bad since I think I have to take blame for this...sorry :(
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: X-IHH/Wallac Isilviere (Kasper) May 27, 2009, 10:20:20 AM
Dont feel bad - it will accomplish little anyway and besides we all could have acted differently or interveened.

Indeed throwing of the first rock saw noone trying to stop it - all I did was laughing my arse off OoC.

Now as I see it we are stuck with our choices. Better see if we can get the portal closed and then flee through the Shadow world. We may have a real problem getting back to the daylight world though but perhaps if failing finding an alternate exit, we can wait for a few days and then rush out through the Obelisk and flee as best we can
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: X-EOM/SS (Marco) May 27, 2009, 11:03:03 AM
Yes, but I think I must be much prepared  :-[
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: X-IHH/Wallac Isilviere (Kasper) May 27, 2009, 11:22:46 AM
In our current situation there is little time to prepare; first priority is to stay alive just now - after wards we can prepare a little concerning how to get away and further from there
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: X-EOM/SS (Marco) May 27, 2009, 11:50:54 AM
at the worst there will be an handful of new regents in the next turn  ::)
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: X-Medoere & RCS/KE (Thorsten) May 27, 2009, 11:52:23 AM
If you need a respite, how about throwing Dimensional Anchor on the Obelisk? The duration is 1 minute per level, and it's a 4th level spell giving you at least 7 minutes. That might give you several important minutes to prepare whatever you feel like preparing (or the EOM time to commune with Eloéle).
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: X-IHH/Wallac Isilviere (Kasper) May 27, 2009, 12:08:35 PM
Dimensional Anchor? It might work; not sure if thats what ETN tries while EOM pull their divine favour trick.

Thanks for the advice :)
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: X-EOM/SS (Marco) May 27, 2009, 12:48:18 PM
Good advice Thorsten, thanks.

Unfortunately I'm too low  to cast 4th level spells   :P
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: X-Medoere & RCS/KE (Thorsten) May 27, 2009, 01:26:21 PM
Good advice Thorsten, thanks.

Unfortunately I'm too low  to cast 4th level spells   :P

Yeah, I usually find myself in the same situation (I *just* got the ability to cast spells, myself and all my LT's aren't that high level).
But seeing our friendly neighbourhood Pontiff in action, I feel that is within his grasp :P
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: X-SASI/Orthien Tane (Rune) May 27, 2009, 01:42:56 PM
Yeah, I usually find myself in the same situation (I *just* got the ability to cast spells, myself and all my LT's aren't that high level).
But seeing our friendly neighbourhood Pontiff in action, I feel that is within his grasp :P

I just told Bjørn off for "killing" Suris Enlien earlier today - now you can join in on the whine-fest! If you had her as regent instead, you'd be kicking some ass!

She was high-level, she was badass, she was fanatical, she was a hell of a lot of fun to play. And she was mine, so I wouldn't let you have her anyway... mohahahahah!

On a side note, sometimes when I'm a bit sad that I don't get to go anywhere with Orthien, I just read some of the previous adventure threads (like this one, for instance) and then I feel rather relieved instead ;D
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: X-MOC/Leman States (Even) May 27, 2009, 02:10:58 PM
Yeah, I usually find myself in the same situation (I *just* got the ability to cast spells, myself and all my LT's aren't that high level).
But seeing our friendly neighbourhood Pontiff in action, I feel that is within his grasp :P

I just told Bjørn off for "killing" Suris Enlien earlier today - now you can join in on the whine-fest! If you had her as regent instead, you'd be kicking some ass!

She was high-level, she was badass, she was fanatical, she was a hell of a lot of fun to play. And she was mine, so I wouldn't let you have her anyway... mohahahahah!

On a side note, sometimes when I'm a bit sad that I don't get to go anywhere with Orthien, I just read some of the previous adventure threads (like this one, for instance) and then I feel rather relieved instead ;D

And where did all her badass high-level mojo end her? Hanging around the neck of good old Heirl Diem. Now that was a proper regent.   8)
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: X-ETN/Maire Cwyllmie (Libor) May 27, 2009, 02:43:47 PM
Seems we're in a bad situation.

Guys, i'm feeling bad since I think I have to take blame for this...sorry :(

It wasn't all your cunning plan to get us to Shadow World and have your way with us?  Are you sure you didn't hire the gnolls?  ;D
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: X-EOM/SS (Marco) May 27, 2009, 03:06:09 PM
as usual people think EOM is a "bad" temple ::)
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: X-SASI/Orthien Tane (Rune) May 27, 2009, 03:08:44 PM
as usual people think EOM is a "bad" temple ::)

If EOM has changed their ways and no longer can be considerde a bad temple, I'll have Orthien convert to one of the more evil temples... IHH or something like that!  ::)
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: X-ETN/Maire Cwyllmie (Libor) May 27, 2009, 03:14:43 PM
as usual people think EOM is a "bad" temple ::)

Don't worry. If we all make it back, you will earn enough points to be allowed to "proper" society. If not, you just will have some more to explain  ;)
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: X-Mieres & SAS/AV (Mark) May 27, 2009, 03:18:27 PM
as usual people think EOM is a "bad" temple ::)

Its the Mainlanders - there all such judgmental Jerks.
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: X-IHH/Wallac Isilviere (Kasper) May 29, 2009, 06:51:21 AM
I would like that we do not post anymore untill Bjørn have had time to respond to whats allready posted.

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: X-ETN/Maire Cwyllmie (Libor) May 29, 2009, 10:20:25 AM
I would like that we do not post anymore untill Bjørn have had time to respond to whats allready posted.

Aren't we supposed to "move story forward"?
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: DM B May 29, 2009, 10:35:12 AM
That you are...
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: X-IHH/Wallac Isilviere (Kasper) May 29, 2009, 10:36:40 AM
I would like that we do not post anymore untill Bjørn have had time to respond to whats allready posted.

Aren't we supposed to "move story forward"?

True but the more we post without Bjørns response the more assumptions we made. I like the way you guys have moved the story forward but personally I prefer to wait for Bjørn to catch up.

That however is my oppinion and by no means should you feel obliged to pause if you feel differently. I merely stated my oppinion and will respect others to perceive it differently.

I have no problems with the part of moving the story forward where you and others have involved IHH (or not) 

NB: And seeing bjørn have replied as I wrote the above I understand he like what you guys have done so far  :)
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: X-IHH/Wallac Isilviere (Kasper) May 29, 2009, 12:36:16 PM
I will henceforth proceed at the rest have done and wait every now and then for having had Bjørn gotten online to see the progress; if nothing is then written by Bjørn I'll assume what has been written is approved.

When it shows not to be I will take whatever changes come from Bjørn and work from those.

Please correct me if my approach is bassed on a misunderstanding
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: X-EOM/SS (Marco) May 29, 2009, 02:52:19 PM
Hey guys. I must leave office for an important encounter with a big customer of mine. I won't retunr here until monday morning (Greenwich time) so no more post by myself until then, sorry
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: X-IHH/Wallac Isilviere (Kasper) May 29, 2009, 03:54:55 PM
We shall try to keep your regent alive over the weekend  ;D

Another matter. Bjørn can Lachlan cast Spell lvl 5 illusion; False Vision to obscure the party from spying eyes?

Area of effect is 40-ft.-radius emanation and duration 1/hour per level. (subject to changes made by Bjørn & being potentially increased in effect due to the Shadow World)
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: X-IHH/Wallac Isilviere (Kasper) May 29, 2009, 04:09:52 PM
Back in the adventure "Wraiths of Ilien part I" Patriarch Baeraelan of RCS found a weak spot in the Veil and forced passage. Wallac assisted him back then and I wonder if he seems capable of spotting a weaking in the Veil when we are outside Thenial and the shadow ward? Also the time of the day could have relevance - during midnight I would assume the veil between the Shadow World and the Daylight World is weakest
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: X-Mieres & SAS/AV (Mark) May 29, 2009, 05:03:48 PM
Bjorn - did my earlier email search turn up anything?  ::)
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: X-Bellam & BC/TB (Bobby) May 29, 2009, 07:20:46 PM
Oooh.  Brilliant idea, Mark.
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: X-Medoere & RCS/KE (Thorsten) May 29, 2009, 07:27:10 PM
Truly... and at the same time scary.
Seeing what the big version does, do you really want to carry a miniature version near your privates? :D
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: X-IHH/Wallac Isilviere (Kasper) May 29, 2009, 09:20:43 PM
He does not have to; EOM would jump for a chance to get hold of even a tiny shard of their beloved Obelisk  ;D
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: X-Medoere & RCS/KE (Thorsten) May 29, 2009, 09:41:31 PM
Hehehe... But seriously: Being a conduit to the shadowworld, I would not consider this thing likely. It is not good (although I wouldn't say it is evil without studying). Use with caution and consider what happened to other people who run around with objects of unknown power... Gollum, gollum!
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: X-EOM/SS (Marco) June 01, 2009, 11:40:25 AM
EOM's back. Not slept in the past 3 nights since my baby didn't fell well..but I'm here now  ;)
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: X-IHH/Wallac Isilviere (Kasper) June 02, 2009, 04:01:10 PM
I assume both of you is now better yes?
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: X-IHH/Wallac Isilviere (Kasper) June 02, 2009, 04:18:41 PM
I feel the adventure is going in two directions - the assassion and focus on the travel. Its perfectly allright with me but I can't myself manege to combine the two lines in the thread; the "found the coast" line and the "Assassin" line.

For now I will interact with the "found the coast" line of story untill I can see how to combine it or others succeed in combining it.

Feel free to make up actions likely to be performed by Wallac Isilviere and describe them in your own posts in the adventure; he is LG
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: X-Mieres & SAS/AV (Mark) June 02, 2009, 04:44:19 PM
I feel I am somewhat to blame on this and I apologize. I'm not really sure how to deal with it.  On my end I've got some emails going on this with Bjorn as to the Governor's private actions and what he is learning (and he doesn't like to share  ::))

In terms of the Governor's actions - As he said - he knows nothing about the shadow worlds so he is willing to let the Pontiff and the Priestesses take the lead there.  After all we saw what happened the last time the Governor had a bright idea about anything mystical (Obelisk + Rock = Epic Fail)
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: X-DM Jon June 02, 2009, 04:49:50 PM
Right now the Governor's words has being ignored by the clergy.
 Do please consider what has been said & described by other players before you move the story too far along. Players tend to suffer if they don't "stick together" like this. I did... Anyway! Move along  ;)
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: X-IHH/Wallac Isilviere (Kasper) June 02, 2009, 04:54:09 PM
Actually I've asked for details from the Govenor (some post back)

I've have tried to interact in both "sides" of the story. I believe they can be combined but I think either Mark or Libor (ETN) is in the best positions to make the link up - as I said they are perfectly welcome "take controll of Wallac"

Note he has been asking for details which he has so far not gotten any reply to (or if he has I missed it - slap me and put me back on track if that is the case).

Basicly I choose to interact with the Coastline part of story because thats what Bjørn has interacted with
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: X-DM Jon June 02, 2009, 04:57:29 PM
Right right, so take the other story and continue it from there. No need to make weird jumps in time.
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: X-IHH/Wallac Isilviere (Kasper) June 02, 2009, 05:55:51 PM
Jon did you mean take the Assassin story now and continue the coastline afterwards?
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: X-DM Jon June 02, 2009, 06:03:07 PM
No, I mean integrate one in the other.
 If you players move the story ahead, the story moves ahead, leaving other matters behind. So if you want to deal with something left behind, you do it in the current situation.
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: X-IHH/Wallac Isilviere (Kasper) June 02, 2009, 06:10:15 PM
ah now I understand what you mean.

I agree with Jon. Mark perhaps you could make an attempt (if you agree and/or it suits you)

If not please consider posting you wont here in OoC

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: X-IHH/Wallac Isilviere (Kasper) June 02, 2009, 06:25:14 PM
I feel I am somewhat to blame on this and I apologize. I'm not really sure how to deal with it.  On my end I've got some emails going on this with Bjorn as to the Governor's private actions and what he is learning (and he doesn't like to share  ::))

For all I care we can give Mark a break with no action while he makes up his mind how to approach this; does he try to make Wallac act in blind trust to the Governor (as man Wallac does not know firsthand) or will he try to withheld full/limit the information.

Perhaps the governor wants to trust some of the named characters present and some not? Wallac perceives himself as a man that know how to keep a secret and worthy of trust. Of cause the Governor may have heard otherwise or not heard anything in this regard at all?

Or the governor is having an internal conflict to share or not to share? Can he withheld the information and still get out from the Shadow World alive and well, or does he have to sacrifice the secrecy to improve chances of success for interrogation of assassin and/or escape Shadow World.

Perhaps some thing I have not mentioned?


In short while I believe IHH AA, the Sidhe Eldritch Knight Lannelah Lachlan, should be able to render a quite good illusion should we ever come to that part


Update  ;D

Having completed their tasks the strangers gather at the short, board their ships and sail away into the darkness. You'll never know who they were or why they are doing what they do.

Shauna Nolan:

We should get going. This memory is delaying us...if I'm not much mistaken this is an old Masetian colony.

Update II:
You have to make a decision:

1. Try to make your way by sea. Unknown hazards.
2. Make your way north through the woods. Warned about spirits.
3. Head south into the wastelands. SHould be fewer hazards, but the trip might get awfully long.
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: X-IHH/Wallac Isilviere (Kasper) June 02, 2009, 10:27:26 PM
3).. "but the trip might get awfully long."

Meaning we will have to spend another Adventure Action first thing next season?
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: DM B June 02, 2009, 10:28:15 PM
Yes.
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: X-IHH/Wallac Isilviere (Kasper) June 02, 2009, 10:42:06 PM
Assuming we get home in one peace will it have consequences for our domains that we are away for a total of 2 adventure actions?

Will it be consequences that the regents themself are aware of? I seems to remember there is something about a certain wedding in Roesone  ???
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: X-DM Jon June 02, 2009, 10:43:58 PM
It will only have an effect if your regent is gone for an entire turn. Even being back for the equivalent of 1 week allows you to pass out orders.
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: X-IHH/Wallac Isilviere (Kasper) June 02, 2009, 10:48:49 PM
Splendid; what about actually attending the bloddy wedding in Roesone should it ever take place  ;D

I rather not miss stuff I intended to be part of like I did with the book of law adventure. Wallacs decision may get influenced if he think he will have trouble getting home to perform the ceremony
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: X-DM Jon June 02, 2009, 10:51:23 PM
Well, seeing as how you're expected to marry the couple, the ceremony will have to wait for you, eh ;)
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: X-IHH/Wallac Isilviere (Kasper) June 02, 2009, 10:59:40 PM
Yes but it might not be that smart since there is allready a huge amount of issues with that weding.

1 Bonus Regent and 3 Regent Actions done over 3 monts.

Now if I do an adventure action as first action does Wallac himself think he can get back in time (yes Wallacs evaluation may be wrongl)
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: X-IHH/Wallac Isilviere (Kasper) June 03, 2009, 06:57:04 AM
ok. please use lachlan. He is very high level Fighter/sorcerer/eldritch knight and should be able to create a very convincing illusion or two. Bear also in mind the Shadow World seems to increase the power of illusion magic and enchantment
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: X-Elinie/RiD (Niels) June 03, 2009, 08:13:46 AM
Your actions "order" does not mean that is how they are exceuted chronologically.
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: X-ETN/Maire Cwyllmie (Libor) June 03, 2009, 09:38:58 AM
You have to make a decision:

1. Try to make your way by sea. Unknown hazards.
2. Make your way north through the woods. Warned about spirits.
3. Head south into the wastelands. SHould be fewer hazards, but the trip might get awfully long.

1) No means to built reliable vessel. And those Masetians bastards didn't leave any ships behind for us  :D
2) We are protected to some degree (Protection from Shadow), but if the spirits are too strong/many/aggressive, someone probably won't make it.
3) Obvious choice, wouldn't you pay 1 action for your life?   ;)
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: X-IHH/Wallac Isilviere (Kasper) June 03, 2009, 09:42:21 AM
Yes I would not mind to pay one extra action to increase the chances my regent survive; you put it in the right perspective.

Bear in mind though that we don't know if there are few hazards "Should be fewer hazards" nor if we survive but I concur it seems to increase chance for survival  :)
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: DM B June 03, 2009, 11:13:57 AM
ok. please use lachlan. He is very high level Fighter/sorcerer/eldritch knight and should be able to create a very convincing illusion or two. Bear also in mind the Shadow World seems to increase the power of illusion magic and enchantment

Sidhe are best with magic of the illusion/enchantment type, as well as other subtle spells. They do not frequently utilize necromancy, evocation or conjuration spells.
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: X-ETN/Maire Cwyllmie (Libor) June 03, 2009, 03:21:44 PM
"Governor we may need some sort of reason as to why lady Faieme is unguarded - perhaps an illusion of more than simply her being unguarded? My friend, Lachlan, will do as you ask of him"

For example all others watching curiously the show in the village can be the "reason" Faieme is unguarded.
Then Mark can start assain's obsidian chainsaw and get him to do his job.  ;D
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: X-Mieres & SAS/AV (Mark) June 03, 2009, 05:09:15 PM
I'm not actually sure what level Lachan is and what spells he has available to him.

I'm thinking uses of Persistent Image / Invisibility / Invisibility Sphere / or even Programmed / Permanent image if high enough level.
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: X-IHH/Wallac Isilviere (Kasper) June 03, 2009, 06:51:39 PM
The Governor instructs Lachlan that they will require three separate illusions if such is possible.

Firstly they require to move Faieme away from her current location and secret her somewhere else without being seen while maintaining the illusion she is still there, "live bait" the Governor points out, is not something he believes Faieme would sign up for.

Second, they need to have some guards nearby to the illusion, not visible to the human eye who can grab the assassin as soon as he makes his move.

Thirdly, the Governor suggests an illusion of some grotesque monstrosity arising from the sea to attack the group.  This would give them the perfect  excuse to move the guards away from Faieme as the men would be ordered to line up near the village to defend leaving Faieme alone in the rear. 

Is Lachlan capable of these feats, does she require aid from Shauna or others?

Bjørn: Prior to Marks above quotet post I send you a mail named "RoE II: Adventure #63, Obelisk of Thenial, question about LL". For all I care feel free to simply interact with Marks post instead of considering said mail  :)

Mark: I like the concept of your plan and especially the third part. If Bjørn gives me permission to go ahead I will gladly make Lachlan interact as the Governor has asked him to though I rather not use specific spell descriptions but focus more on the effects. If Bjørn think it is better he make Lachlan action he is welcome to do it.


Libor/ETN: You idea with watching the show in the village is a god one but for the fact it will call for a ret-con and time-loops is, as I understand it, best to be avoided or at least made by the DM's. The village show is allready over and done so we need something else to distract.
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: X-Mieres & SAS/AV (Mark) June 03, 2009, 07:14:42 PM
All this planning has clearly spooked the assassin...he is reported as missing...probably left the group when you were in the village. Too bad.

Oeberon thinks he must have gone north. LL is inclined to agree.

AH CRAP!
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: X-IHH/Wallac Isilviere (Kasper) June 03, 2009, 07:15:40 PM
All this planning has clearly spooked the assassin...he is reported as missing...probably left the group when you were in the village. Too bad.

Oeberon thinks he must have gone north. LL is inclined to agree.

So, once again, what are you going to do?

Quite a feat since the Governor knew who he is. This must surely be a man of great resources. Mark want us to pursue him.

Wallac, considering his old master Martin Royce recently got murdered, support attempting to go after the vile assassin
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: X-IHH/Wallac Isilviere (Kasper) June 03, 2009, 07:19:49 PM
Tracking a lone assassin would be impossible with such a large party of yours. He even has a head start. A small group of foresters and such COULD have a chance of catching him.

No way am I going to support splitting up in the Shadow World - that surely would mean doom to us all
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: X-Medoere & RCS/KE (Thorsten) June 03, 2009, 07:20:34 PM
Well, consider that this assassin must've been aware that his cover might be blown, ever since the obsidian shard/dagger was pulled from the body of the intended victim.

Frankly when I think about it, I'm surprised he didn't attempt to get away before.  ;)
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: DM B June 03, 2009, 07:29:03 PM
Could someone pleas explain to me why you needed like five major gatherings and a lot of planning to seize an assassin you already knew who were? When Faieme survived he must have had reason for concern, when she was guarded even more so...come on people...
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: X-IHH/Wallac Isilviere (Kasper) June 03, 2009, 07:30:24 PM
True. I gather the reason he did not make his escape earlier was because alone in the Shadow World could mean certain dead - I thought he had wanted o much to believe he was not discovered that he would stay.

I was wrong  :P
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: X-Medoere & RCS/KE (Thorsten) June 03, 2009, 07:51:48 PM
Ah yes, well if he's an accomplished assassin, assume he has an exit strategy.
Personally, I would have rained fire and brimstone on him, and worried about getting the answers later (nobles have that advantage  ;)).

But that's easy to say with hindsight... I liked the discussion you guys had (and I like Mark's descriptions of the guvernors action... he's warming up to me)

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: X-IHH/Wallac Isilviere (Kasper) June 03, 2009, 07:52:48 PM
And I was working on a post where Lachlan runned the show by his illusions. Been doing so for an hour or so. Had been planning for this all day. Now it is deleted  :'(

Guess that will teach me not to stop and ask questions to the DM and instead just
act.

But that's easy to say with hindsight... I liked the discussion you guys had (and I like Mark's descriptions of the guvernors action... he's warming up to me)

Indeed the Governor is cool  :)
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: X-IHH/Wallac Isilviere (Kasper) June 03, 2009, 07:58:54 PM
perhaps we should give ETN & EOM a chance to decide how they respond - going along with the spearhead, forcemarching with Wallac and his men, moving north but not running or simply move south

Bjørns keyboard must be smoking. I stay as close to the action as possible
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: X-Mieres & SAS/AV (Mark) June 03, 2009, 08:19:41 PM
Ah yes, well if he's an accomplished assassin, assume he has an exit strategy.
Personally, I would have rained fire and brimstone on him, and worried about getting the answers later (nobles have that advantage  ;)).

But that's easy to say with hindsight... I liked the discussion you guys had (and I like Mark's descriptions of the guvernors action... he's warming up to me)

Let's just hope the Governor survives his most recent decision.   ;D

Its a bit rash but he's quite peeved that the assassin slipped away, and mostly because he let the assassin slip away.  In fact he really wanted to just grab him and question (re: torture the hell out of) immediately but he figured Wallace and Marie might have some problems with that.

In fact he figured Wallace and Marie might have some problems with torturing someone period never mind torturing someone the Governor was 'pretty sure' was the assassin.  The only reason why he bothered with the plan to catch the assassin in the act was because he didn't want to deal with any moral objections from the good Pontiff.

He is more angry at himself than anyone else - because he should know better.
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: X-IHH/Wallac Isilviere (Kasper) June 03, 2009, 08:23:20 PM
Well you could just have grabbed him and dealt with the clergery.

When it comes to assassins Wallac is not soft in any way. And hey guys - torture was the  most important investigation tool in the middleage- often the only one  ;D
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: X-IHH/Wallac Isilviere (Kasper) June 03, 2009, 09:17:02 PM
Mark now is as god a time as any to come up with another clever plan; We are in for a real treat it seems.

I knew something nasty would happen should we split up and even move north but for Wallacs history and Royces murder he could not leave you all to your own destiny.

Now it seems he will instead share your destiny; a morsel for a Shadow creature lol
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: X-Mieres & SAS/AV (Mark) June 03, 2009, 09:18:17 PM
The gears are turning... the gears are turning
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: X-IHH/Wallac Isilviere (Kasper) June 03, 2009, 09:26:05 PM
Click. You brought torches. Should have thought of that. Keep them comming!

Eh meaning both the torches and the ideas  ;)
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: X-IHH/Wallac Isilviere (Kasper) June 03, 2009, 10:03:31 PM
Ohh I guess I should hold back a little; not that I want to  :-\
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: X-IHH/Wallac Isilviere (Kasper) June 03, 2009, 10:24:49 PM
OOC: Im somewhat confused now. How many groups are there? And who is where? Anyway Maire and her people prefer to be with the largest group and desirably stay near the village waiting for others to return if that is an option.

OOC: There is only one group now, you've all banded together again after finding the dead assassin.

Sorry but it seems we unintentionally dragged you into the mess as well - and for us it seems - a good thing since you maneged to bring some divine light with you


I hope you see it through
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: X-IHH/Wallac Isilviere (Kasper) June 03, 2009, 11:17:22 PM
OOC: DM going to bed :)

As will I. I'll probably not have time to check out the forum before tommorow afternoon (GMT+1).
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: X-ETN/Maire Cwyllmie (Libor) June 03, 2009, 11:20:17 PM
What about fire elemental? Can Haelyn priest call it? It can provide light as well as fire attack (provided it doesn't set forest afire with its mere existence). I think Nesirie's priests can call water elementals, but they wouldn't be particularly useful :)
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: X-Bellam & BC/TB (Bobby) June 03, 2009, 11:23:54 PM
Try a Lantern Archon or five.
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: X-IHH/Wallac Isilviere (Kasper) June 03, 2009, 11:30:11 PM
I dont see a Haelyn priest calling upon a fire elemental - if I am mistaken in this I would like to be corrected.

Haelyn's portfolio is Courage, justice, chivalry, rulership, war. Oh well maybee Courage could call for fire elemental but somehow it feel wrong in my guts though the idea has merit
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: X-IHH/Wallac Isilviere (Kasper) June 03, 2009, 11:42:08 PM
I wonder if EOM could not play some nasty tricks on that shadow beast and Shauna too perhaps
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: DM B June 04, 2009, 08:24:09 AM
What about fire elemental? Can Haelyn priest call it? It can provide light as well as fire attack (provided it doesn't set forest afire with its mere existence). I think Nesirie's priests can call water elementals, but they wouldn't be particularly useful :)

Haelyn has no power over fire...that would be Laerme that has inherited the fire portfolio from her mother Avanalae (who got it from Basaïa).

...and yes, they would turn the forest into a blazing inferno...even more than oil-throwing will :)
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: X-Osoerde (Alan) June 04, 2009, 03:32:37 PM
Am I allowed to offer an idea?
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: X-IHH/Wallac Isilviere (Kasper) June 04, 2009, 03:55:59 PM
Heh why not? The matter is wether we are allowed to use it. If it is IC with Wallac I would not hesitate but I guess I'm a poor and biased judge of this  ;D
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: X-DM Jon June 04, 2009, 03:57:14 PM
Am I allowed to offer an idea?

 Sure. Just don't tell them IC stuff they wouldn't know about.
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: X-Mieres & SAS/AV (Mark) June 04, 2009, 04:00:53 PM
Can I just say I find it amusing the different ways that the Governor and the Pontiff attempted to inspire the men.   ;D
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: X-IHH/Wallac Isilviere (Kasper) June 04, 2009, 04:10:23 PM
I was allready making Wallacs speach when you posted the Governors. I finished Wallacs speach with a few changes trying emphasize the different approaches taken by these two.

Two very different men. Yet the Pontiff has gained a solid amount of respect for the Governor who he has not met before this little quest; they may differ a lot in their perception of the world but Wallac realize the different approach certainly hold some merrit as well. He is afterall priest to a god of among other stuff, martial might. Soldiering is not unknown to Wallac and the Baron of Roesone is also quite colorfull  :D
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: X-IHH/Wallac Isilviere (Kasper) June 04, 2009, 04:11:23 PM
Am I allowed to offer an idea?

 Sure. Just don't tell them IC stuff they wouldn't know about.

What I meant was if it would be in line with Wallac IC he might consider any good advice unless told not to
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: X-EOM/SS (Marco) June 04, 2009, 04:31:24 PM
I have asked privately to Bjorn a thing.

If he'll give me the answer I hope he does maybe we'll can all be safe

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: X-IHH/Wallac Isilviere (Kasper) June 04, 2009, 04:42:29 PM
Marco do you ask us to pause while you wait for Bjørns reply? I need to be tied to a pole or my stubby fingers hit the keyboard all by themself.

I'll try though.

Consider to ask me to stop posting by more direct means as in "Shut up!"  ::)
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: X-Mieres & SAS/AV (Mark) June 04, 2009, 04:47:50 PM
I'll hold off posting until I hear something - but I reserve the right to obsessively check the boards for unread (new) posts every five minutes  ;D
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: X-EOM/SS (Marco) June 04, 2009, 04:49:02 PM
is what Iìm doing Mark.

unfortunately in about 10 minutes I gonna leave and until tomorrow I won't check the forum anymore
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: X-IHH/Wallac Isilviere (Kasper) June 04, 2009, 05:02:11 PM
Then we will play pubbetmaster with Saera lol

On a more serious matter.

Clearly it is too dangerous to travel through all of Thenial to find an exit from this accursed place!

You must find another way.

and

Shauna also has one interesting piece of information; the spirits won't leave the forests of Mieres. So should you go south, you would be safe from them.

I assume the last one is what is true right now (possible changing allready). Thus traveling south has again become a viable solution
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: X-Osoerde (Alan) June 04, 2009, 05:20:25 PM
Weren't many Masela temples converted to temples of Nesirie?  Perhaps that temple can act as a 'foci' to the ETN temple on the other side?
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: X-IHH/Wallac Isilviere (Kasper) June 04, 2009, 05:22:22 PM
Nice one  :)

I think/hope thats what Libor/ETN is aiming for as by his last post
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: X-Osoerde (Alan) June 04, 2009, 05:26:12 PM
Maire should be able to make a place hallowed of the Great Mother, I suspect.
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: X-ETN/Maire Cwyllmie (Libor) June 04, 2009, 05:26:54 PM
Weren't many Masela temples converted to temples of Nesirie?  Perhaps that temple can act as a 'foci' to the ETN temple on the other side?

Im not sure what you mean by 'foci'. Would that allow us to go or communicate trough the Veil? Or to call Nesirie's power into the SW?
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: DM B June 04, 2009, 05:27:20 PM
Don't look at the DM...he doesn't know either.
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: X-ETN/Maire Cwyllmie (Libor) June 04, 2009, 05:29:37 PM
Nice one  :)

I think/hope thats what Libor/ETN is aiming for as by his last post

Not exactly. Im somewhat more abmitious trying to pose as the goddess of the sea ;)
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: X-IHH/Wallac Isilviere (Kasper) June 04, 2009, 05:31:58 PM
Im not sure what you mean by 'foci'. Would that allow us to go or communicate trough the Veil? Or to call Nesirie's power into the SW?
I believe you have allready made quite a show of calling Nesirie's power into the Shadow World and succeeding doing so - remember the recent fights? The light and stuff? If for that we would surely have been in for even worse experience than the one the party got.
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: X-IHH/Wallac Isilviere (Kasper) June 04, 2009, 05:37:19 PM
Having done all that she could for others, Maire tries to get some rest and consolation herself. She goes to the sea and Masela's temple trying to commune with sea and draw an inspiration from it as she is used to do. To calm her mind and clear it from anger and frustration like the sea calms and sky above it clears after storm. Maybe if she clears her mind she will be able to come up with a solution to this mess. Or will even sea answer the call of Masela's blood in Maire's veins?

Something happens all right. But not what you had...expected, if you had any expectations at all.

First one appears. Then one more. Then a few more at a time. Faster and faster. What say you? The bloated corpses of lost Masetian sailors...hundreds, nay thousands, slowly drifting to the surface, chocking the beach and the ocean beyond. It is an eerie sight to say the least. Nothing works the way it is supposed to here, and all that you do turn into something dark and distorted.

I guess that pretty much want me to NOT waiting around to see Maire investigating how to interface with the old temple; next thing is she direct the thousands of corpses to march through the Obelisk  ;D

Bjørn you are nasty in an extremely entertaining way  :P
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: X-Mieres & SAS/AV (Mark) June 04, 2009, 05:38:07 PM
OH DEAR GOD!  I think the Governor just shat himself  ???
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: X-IHH/Wallac Isilviere (Kasper) June 04, 2009, 05:39:59 PM
First a quick little recap and then an army of dead on the shore of the erstwhile "safe" village lol.

Wallac goes to take a piss trying to aim for somewere outside his armour 8)
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: X-ETN/Maire Cwyllmie (Libor) June 04, 2009, 05:45:47 PM
Having done all that she could for others, Maire tries to get some rest and consolation herself. She goes to the sea and Masela's temple trying to commune with sea and draw an inspiration from it as she is used to do. To calm her mind and clear it from anger and frustration like the sea calms and sky above it clears after storm. Maybe if she clears her mind she will be able to come up with a solution to this mess. Or will even sea answer the call of Masela's blood in Maire's veins?

Something happens all right. But not what you had...expected, if you had any expectations at all.

First one appears. Then one more. Then a few more at a time. Faster and faster. What say you? The bloated corpses of lost Masetian sailors...hundreds, nay thousands, slowly drifting to the surface, chocking the beach and the ocean beyond. It is an eerie sight to say the least. Nothing works the way it is supposed to here, and all that you do turn into something dark and distorted.

I guess that pretty much want me to NOT waiting around to see Maire investigating how to interface with the old temple; next thing is she direct the thousands of corpses to march through the Obelisk  ;D

Yes! They answered the call of their goddess. Now they will serve me, follow trough the Obelisk and kick those gnoll asses  8)
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: X-Mieres & SAS/AV (Mark) June 04, 2009, 05:51:38 PM
Why do I have visions of Return of the Jedi where the Ewoks were going to sacrifice the party to their "God" 3CPO?  :o
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: X-IHH/Wallac Isilviere (Kasper) June 04, 2009, 05:56:13 PM
Well you asked that question yourself - better also answer it because I can surely not see why you would think that? Those sailor are not fluffy and sweet  ;D

As for ETN turning into master of an undead army or should I say navy? Ok Army. they lack the ships yet. "Maire would you please ask the nice gentlemen if they know where we could find a ship? Oh they allready offered one; and you said the name was something with flying and dutchman?"
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: DM B June 04, 2009, 06:00:26 PM
They are just floating
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: X-Osoerde (Alan) June 04, 2009, 06:03:12 PM
By foci, I was thinking more like how a temple acts as a 'source' for wielding realm magic.  In this particular case, I was thinking that the temple could be made to allow Maire to access her temple network which would mean that she has realm magic, but more aptly, she could undo her shadow ward.

It doesn't really matter though, since it looks like this won't work.
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: X-IHH/Wallac Isilviere (Kasper) June 04, 2009, 06:03:58 PM
They are just floating

Yet  ::)
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: X-IHH/Wallac Isilviere (Kasper) June 04, 2009, 06:05:14 PM
Perhaps we could simply walk on the corpses and thus cross the sea  ???


No no I did not mean that!
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: X-Mieres & SAS/AV (Mark) June 04, 2009, 06:08:25 PM
Oh dear God now the Priestess is trying to control them! AHHHHHHH Run for your lives!!!
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: X-IHH/Wallac Isilviere (Kasper) June 04, 2009, 06:13:13 PM
Who am I turn turn down the divine aid lend us by Masela? We looked for a means to leave by the sea and now she graciously command her sailors to carry us – literally!

I don't want to be ungrateful now would I?
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: X-IHH/Wallac Isilviere (Kasper) June 04, 2009, 06:19:48 PM
Seriously I don't really know how Wallac should react to this. But he surely don't like it much; the Gnoll ambush ahead seems to much sweeter in hindsight
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: X-Mieres & SAS/AV (Mark) June 04, 2009, 06:21:37 PM
I think the Governor is reacting well for everyone  ;D  - Hey everyone is thinking it, I'm just saying it.
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: X-IHH/Wallac Isilviere (Kasper) June 04, 2009, 06:26:12 PM
Mark actually I am not sure if the Governor has expressed any preference concerning leaving the SW by means of the Obelisk or going south - if he has expressed anything in that regard please direct me to it - if not Wallac will ask IC in thread later

Unless ofcause this is it:
The Governor shakes his head.

"The Obelisk is one possibility but we have no idea what lies on the other side.  You are the only one who seems to know what uses it can be put to.  I would ask again whether it is only a door or if it can be used as a window as well.  Can we see what is on the other side before we pass through?

Also, how tied is the Obelisk to its mirror self here?  If we were to trigger a storm like before here - would it set off in our world? If there are but a few gnolls around it, this may give us the surprise needed to run through quickly and escape.

If not we can we can do little at this point but head south into the wastelands I would think."
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: X-Mieres & SAS/AV (Mark) June 04, 2009, 06:31:07 PM
The Governor's stated preference is to peek through the Obelisk and maybe send a scout or two through to check things out.  If it is good then we can try to make a break for it.  If not he thinks the south is the only real option open.
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: X-IHH/Wallac Isilviere (Kasper) June 04, 2009, 06:32:23 PM
The scout etc stuff should be said in adventure thread please so I legally can react upon it  ::)
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: X-Medoere & RCS/KE (Thorsten) June 04, 2009, 06:57:41 PM
Mark, I LOOOVE that speech! Half the clergymen in Anuire would keel over from hearing it, and the other half would burst out laughing. Keep it up! :D

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: X-IHH/Wallac Isilviere (Kasper) June 04, 2009, 07:03:29 PM
But for the mess he is in Wallac for one would be among those laughing loudly! The Governor has been a source of constant entertainment ever since he throw that bloody rock at the obelisk ;)

Ok perhaps I laugh more than Wallac would
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: X-IHH/Wallac Isilviere (Kasper) June 04, 2009, 07:32:24 PM
Oh dear God now the Priestess is trying to control them! AHHHHHHH Run for your lives!!!

You only made it worse lol!
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: X-Mieres & SAS/AV (Mark) June 04, 2009, 07:38:34 PM
I know - this is really not good, but what is the Governor going to do - physically assault the High Priestess who can probably turn him to ashes with her magic?

Actually I had considered thumping her on the head from behind with the hilt of a dagger but alas - I decided that was not necessarily a better solution.
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: X-IHH/Wallac Isilviere (Kasper) June 04, 2009, 07:41:45 PM
Yup that would turn the Ewoks on the rest of us as Maire lost the control going unconscious. Besides Wallac would never accept that anyone assaulted Maire so that would have made a mess of it all.

Wallac had allready begun making ready to go before Maire took the next step - he is only waiting for her (not knowing what she is up to yet) and the Governor ???
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: X-ETN/Maire Cwyllmie (Libor) June 04, 2009, 07:42:30 PM
I know - this is really not good, but what is the Governor going to do - physically assault the High Priestess who can probably turn him to ashes with her magic?

To ashes you say? So governor must be a vampire. That may come handy. Can I know it IC?  ;D
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: X-IHH/Wallac Isilviere (Kasper) June 04, 2009, 07:44:00 PM
To ashes you say? So governor must be a vampire. That may come handy. Can I know it IC?  ;D

Wallac whispers to Maire "You know I suspect the governor to be a vampire"

Does that surfice  ;D
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: X-Mieres & SAS/AV (Mark) June 04, 2009, 08:00:26 PM
*Looking at the Governor's Portrait*

Hmmmm I guess this doesn't help much either....
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: DM B June 04, 2009, 08:07:53 PM
So, am I correct in assuming that the Obelisk is the option of choice. No heading north or south? Make for the 'lisk?
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: X-IHH/Wallac Isilviere (Kasper) June 04, 2009, 08:10:03 PM
We never get to act upon anything before one of us mess up and change the options or the basis for picking a particular one. Right now I am happy sitting tight in the temple praying for deliverance.

That will teach me not to go on a adventure without clearly defined goals from the onset lol!
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: X-Mieres & SAS/AV (Mark) June 04, 2009, 08:16:29 PM
I think heading north was definitely out of the question given the spanking we got the last time.  :o

I believe we were discussing peeking through the 'lisk and determining what to do from there.  If it didn't look good the Governor was pushing for the southern trek.

Of course now we are not stuck in the shadow world - now we are stuck in the temple of a dead god in the shadow world (which is SO much better)  :P
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: X-IHH/Wallac Isilviere (Kasper) June 04, 2009, 08:23:10 PM
Don't forget to mention all the followers of the same dead god roaming around outside. Also all very dead by the way  :o

I was also for taking a peek through the Obelisk and if looking not too bad make a run for it. Else the southern route.

Even the people of ETN run for cover leaving Maire to her own devices - which is probably the wise course of action - in retro perspective it looks much better to have the Governor hit her repeatedly on the head when she refused to be stopped  :P
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: DM B June 04, 2009, 08:24:34 PM
Infinitely better  ::)

You are, alike all good players, your own worst enemies  ;D'

Anyway, SS may have some input regarding the 'lisk. I think I'll leave you in the temple for now and wait for her to log in a say somthing.
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: X-IHH/Wallac Isilviere (Kasper) June 04, 2009, 08:27:47 PM
Meaning you wont have the army of undead break in and club us to dead so we can join their ranks; yet?

You are, alike all good players, your own worst enemies  ;D'

Happy we don't disapoint you but deliver entertainment as we stumble about messing everything up for ourselves; I must admit I have great fun though I surely will perceive it differently when my stability drop as a stone having yet a High Prefect dying  ::)
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: X-IHH/Wallac Isilviere (Kasper) June 04, 2009, 08:46:04 PM
Infinitely better  ::)

You are, alike all good players, your own worst enemies  ;D'

Anyway, SS may have some input regarding the 'lisk. I think I'll leave you in the temple for now and wait for her to log in a say somthing.

Maire tries to organize the dead Masetians in a deep crescent all staring at its centre right before main entrance of the temple. There shall be the focal point to concentrate all suffering they release and where hopefully the Veil will be pierced.

Then Maire walks to the barricaded entrance alone leaving the dead behind and says loudly "Here is the gate you can pass trough to the world of living. The dead won't harm you, I will see to it."

OOC: Does it work? If not, I will have to come with something different.

I am not sure if we should not stop here and wait for Marco/SS. As I understand Bjørn we are stuck in the temple for now
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: X-DM Jon June 04, 2009, 08:48:16 PM
I find the general best means of survival is to do as little as possible. Which is why I never leave my computer  ;D

 Anyway, undead is anathema of all things good and lawful. To raise them is an inherently evil act. Which means you priests are all in deep trouble with number 1 up top  ::)
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: X-IHH/Wallac Isilviere (Kasper) June 04, 2009, 09:03:03 PM
All priests? So besides being in the trouble comming from the fact that an army of undead crowd our position we also take the blame for Maires wrong actions? I thought it was clear we did NOT want her to take such a sinister approach!
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: X-DM Jon June 04, 2009, 09:08:16 PM
Yesss, that's good! Pass the blame, but reap the benefits! True evil comes not from the act, but from good men that do nothing!
 You, like your predecessor, are now... MINE!

Ramble ramble ramble

 But seriously, depending on what happens, you should probably go through some form of cleansing ceremony back home - and DEFINITELY get Marie to do one as well.
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: X-IHH/Wallac Isilviere (Kasper) June 04, 2009, 09:12:11 PM
Sure Wallac will find he needs some kind of atonement for this but who is to say he is going to accept using Maires means of transportation? Right now he suspect she is possesed
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: X-Mieres & SAS/AV (Mark) June 04, 2009, 09:13:38 PM
But seriously, depending on what happens, you should probably go through some form of cleansing ceremony back home - and DEFINITELY get Marie to do one as well.

Well the Governor is already acceptably corrupt so I think he is ok.  ::)
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: X-IHH/Wallac Isilviere (Kasper) June 04, 2009, 09:26:09 PM
But seriously, depending on what happens, you should probably go through some form of cleansing ceremony back home - and DEFINITELY get Marie to do one as well.

Well the Governor is already acceptably corrupt so I think he is ok.  ::)

Are you sure? To me it seemed as if even a man acceptably corrupt found it to be a tad too much  ::)

The Governor reaches for Marie quickly attempting to cover her mouth and stifle her call.

"Are you Insane!!!" He whispers sharply, as if he is afraid he might wake the dead - literally.  "I have been accused of a number of dark deeds in my days, and had a number of unkind words addressed as to my character - and even I know this sort of thing should not be done!"
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: X-DM Jon June 04, 2009, 09:27:14 PM
But seriously, depending on what happens, you should probably go through some form of cleansing ceremony back home - and DEFINITELY get Marie to do one as well.

Well the Governor is already acceptably corrupt so I think he is ok.  ::)

Are you sure? To me it seemed as if even a man acceptably corrupt found it to be a tad too much  ::)

The Governor reaches for Marie quickly attempting to cover her mouth and stifle her call.

"Are you Insane!!!" He whispers sharply, as if he is afraid he might wake the dead - literally.  "I have been accused of a number of dark deeds in my days, and had a number of unkind words addressed as to my character - and even I know this sort of thing should not be done!"

Sounds like a great survival instinct to me  ;D
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: X-Medoere & RCS/KE (Thorsten) June 04, 2009, 09:31:32 PM
... Or you could just hire a good PR-agent. (Very good PR-agent!) :)
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: DM B June 04, 2009, 09:42:18 PM
After this, I'd willingly do penance all my days if I got out alive...

..but you have to give it to Maire...she's come up with a very creative plan...a plan D) the DM hadn't anticipated. That isn't necessarily a good thing, but it does earn creativity points.
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: X-IHH/Wallac Isilviere (Kasper) June 04, 2009, 09:45:06 PM
True. Give her some creativity points to go along with her new allignment  :D
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: X-IHH/Wallac Isilviere (Kasper) June 04, 2009, 09:53:31 PM
Libor are you really prepared to carry this through? To me it seems the longer the dead are abused the worse it gets - both our survival chances and the immortal souls of our characters (well mostly Maires)
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: X-Haelyn's Aegis/RK (Andy) June 04, 2009, 10:14:44 PM
Speaking theologically, it would appear that these poor souls were trapped in the Shadow World when Masela died, and have suffered throughout the centuries since, one could therefore argue that Marie is giving them a chance to win Nesirie's favour and be granted eternal rest in her kingdom.  Alternatively the Queen of heaven and mistress of the quiet (as opposed to unquiet) dead may find Maire's disturbing them a tad hasty.

So the question on my mind, is the Red Wind, master of Undeath, and immortal champion of Azrai a) going to be scared of a bunch of sailors he killed centuries ago, or b) smile and say 'new recruits...'

People are dying to find out in both senses of the phrase....
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: X-IHH/Wallac Isilviere (Kasper) June 04, 2009, 10:22:22 PM
Interesting questions Andy. Please elaborate
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: X-ETN/Maire Cwyllmie (Libor) June 04, 2009, 10:39:14 PM
Libor are you really prepared to carry this through? To me it seems the longer the dead are abused the worse it gets - both our survival chances and the immortal souls of our characters (well mostly Maires)

I will carry it trough but Im not sure how exactly it will end. It got out of hands somewhat  :-[  Hopefully all PCs will survive and dead will find their final rest. But Maire is pretty close to writing her off, I fear.  :-\
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: X-ETN/Maire Cwyllmie (Libor) June 04, 2009, 10:41:07 PM
Now I go to bed and hope undead won't haunt me in my dreams  ;D
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: X-DM Jon June 04, 2009, 10:42:29 PM
Well your last IC message leaves me wondering, what are you talking about?
 I think you might have a great idea, but you need to elaborate more on it. Who needs to focus what where? That sort of thing.
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: X-Mieres & SAS/AV (Mark) June 04, 2009, 10:47:42 PM
I think she it trying to tear a hole in the Veil.

Man the Baron of Serien is gonna be PISSED

Baron Zenneth - So Governor how did things go.

Governor Vamuel - Not well, got ambushed by Gnolls and stuck in the shadow world for a time - but we did learn some important information and managed to foil an assassination attempt against your spymaster and the regents got back alive.

Baron Zenneth - Well at least it ended well then.

Governor Vamuel - Yeah well go to go - Oh! I forgot, we also ripped a permanent hold into the Shadow World and let thousand of shambling undead into your realm.  Anyway drop me a line next time your in Seaward!"

Baron Zenneth - Wait - WHAT??!!!

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: X-IHH/Wallac Isilviere (Kasper) June 04, 2009, 10:50:28 PM
lol!

Actually that is exactly what would make sense from her actions but I cannot find out how that works along with how ETN is; at least not what I know of ETN.

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: X-Bellam & BC/TB (Bobby) June 04, 2009, 10:50:39 PM
My understanding is, she's trying to release the negative energy of the undead, their suffering and unhappiness, at a point, with the twin intentions of freeing them from undead-ness and weakening the Veil at that location to permit passage.  This assumes two things: First, that doing so will "free" the souls, and second (possibly more important) that she can then control that energy, contain it, and dissipate it afterwards without it hurting anyone. 

Oh, also that channeling all that energy won't have unfortunate repercussions on her own soul in the process.
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: X-IHH/Wallac Isilviere (Kasper) June 04, 2009, 10:54:32 PM
Moreso where they allready undead before Maire began working them? If not this is utterly evil act - at least as I perceive it but I got a feeling Libor don't intend his character to act evil.

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: X-Mieres & SAS/AV (Mark) June 04, 2009, 10:55:46 PM
Desperation can make for poor choices...
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: X-IHH/Wallac Isilviere (Kasper) June 04, 2009, 10:58:45 PM
Or having a real good idea - it is difficult to let go of such
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: X-DM Jon June 04, 2009, 11:00:45 PM
Well let's see what Libor thinks of.
 It's definitely not ordinary priestly magic to create several thousands of undead. That's the equal of a realm spell.
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: X-Bellam & BC/TB (Bobby) June 04, 2009, 11:06:03 PM
Yeah - to use an appropriately oceanic metaphor, I think Maire is riding a wave now.  Some upswell of power in the Shadow World responding to her need that she's now semi-directing.  She didn't cause it herself, but she's obliquely responsible for the results since it formed in response to her need, and she's distinctly responsible for her actions in directing and releasing (or not) the souls entrapped by it.
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: X-DM Jon June 04, 2009, 11:07:19 PM
Sounds plausible. Perhaps it works both ways  ;)
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: X-Mieres & SAS/AV (Mark) June 04, 2009, 11:41:08 PM
Oh well - going to bed, and somewhat dreading what I will wake up to find tomorrow...
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: X-Osoerde (Alan) June 05, 2009, 01:47:31 AM
The Shadow World is not inherently evil - that is too easy a solution.  Instead, like the Daylight World, things are always shaded gray.

Frankly, this whole Maire thing, just makes for a great story, like most things, its ultimate consequences and/or benefits are not known, but I think Libor will have fun finding out.
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: X-IHH/Wallac Isilviere (Kasper) June 05, 2009, 02:19:19 AM
But ofcause you say that - it was your idea to make use of the old temple as a foci heh heh
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: X-EOM/SS (Marco) June 05, 2009, 07:50:19 AM
I made my move...hope it can help.

 
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: DM B June 05, 2009, 08:45:08 AM
I think she it trying to tear a hole in the Veil.


Indeed she is. A smallish hole mind you, between this temple and the one on the other side (presumably). Only problem is that SHE cast Shadow Ward on Thenial, which means that only SHE (or those she empowers) can actually pierce the Veil (save the 'lisk obviously - the 'lisk works anyway). Quite the dilemma.
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: DM B June 05, 2009, 08:48:42 AM
My understanding is, she's trying to release the negative energy of the undead, their suffering and unhappiness, at a point, with the twin intentions of freeing them from undead-ness and weakening the Veil at that location to permit passage.  This assumes two things: First, that doing so will "free" the souls, and second (possibly more important) that she can then control that energy, contain it, and dissipate it afterwards without it hurting anyone. 

Oh, also that channeling all that energy won't have unfortunate repercussions on her own soul in the process.

Three very interesting assumptions, would you not say? Interesting in the sense of what could happen if even one was incorrect...

Long shot? Yes. Interesting? Very much so.
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: DM B June 05, 2009, 08:52:02 AM
The Shadow World is not inherently evil - that is too easy a solution.  Instead, like the Daylight World, things are always shaded gray.

Frankly, this whole Maire thing, just makes for a great story, like most things, its ultimate consequences and/or benefits are not known, but I think Libor will have fun finding out.

But you do forget that vast tracts of the SW have become corrupted and thus...inherently evil. And as a place of dreams, faerie magic and spirits...there is a lot of room for even well intended actions to be twisted into something dark and vile.

So maybe the SW was a balanced grayish place once...but now it definitely tends toward a dark grey...
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: X-IHH/Wallac Isilviere (Kasper) June 05, 2009, 08:59:12 AM

The Shadow World is not inherently evil - that is too easy a solution.  Instead, like the Daylight World, things are always shaded gray.

Frankly, this whole Maire thing, just makes for a great story, like most things, its ultimate consequences and/or benefits are not known, but I think Libor will have fun finding out.


But you do forget that vast tracts of the SW have become corrupted and thus...inherently evil. And as a place of dreams, faerie magic and spirits...there is a lot of room for even well intended actions to be twisted into something dark and vile.

So maybe the SW was a balanced grayish place once...but now it definitely tends toward a dark grey...

Particularly the part "there is a lot of room for even well intended actions to be twisted into something dark and vile." applies here.

To me Maire's well intended actions was twisted into something dark
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: X-IHH/Wallac Isilviere (Kasper) June 05, 2009, 09:37:55 AM
Libor you may find this worth remembering in your current situation.

"The Eve of the Dead at the end of Emmanir is the principle holy day for the priesthood of Nesirie. On this day they honor the memories of those who have died and comfort those that grieve for them. This ceremony is critical to the Nesirians, for they believe that only through the memories of the living can a spirit find peace and that those who are forgotten after death are easy prey for the power of Shadow. This aspect is weaker in temples which tend mostly to those who make their living from the sea, but not absent - the sea has ever been a dangerous profession"
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: X-ETN/Maire Cwyllmie (Libor) June 05, 2009, 10:10:05 AM
Well that is all from me. I will probably not be able to come with anything better.
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: DM B June 05, 2009, 10:13:38 AM
Well that is all from me. I will probably not be able to come with anything better.

You've already delivered quite a bit of excellent adventure.
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: X-IHH/Wallac Isilviere (Kasper) June 05, 2009, 10:23:46 AM
The High Priestess no longer acting in a way that can be perceived as evil Wallac will try to render her what little help he can.. I'll post something, hopefully usefull, in adventure thread
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: X-IHH/Wallac Isilviere (Kasper) June 05, 2009, 10:55:40 AM
Marco you think ETN still tries to weaken the Veil? I think not but ofcause that may be wishfull thinking.
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: X-EOM/SS (Marco) June 05, 2009, 11:01:36 AM
After a brief thinkink, in my opinion, the best thing for us is to pierce there the Veil, and then well face the undead in the daylight world.

It'll cause some ruins but... hey, we will be safe ;D
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: X-EOM/SS (Marco) June 05, 2009, 11:12:13 AM
in fact we're safe...for now  ::)
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: X-EOM/SS (Marco) June 05, 2009, 11:13:03 AM
Maybe I've missed it but...where's located ETN temple?
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: X-EOM/SS (Marco) June 05, 2009, 11:14:56 AM
of course we've also disvored the Red Wind is still misusing the Obelisk...again him...next time it'll be his turn to die  :)
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: X-DM Jon June 05, 2009, 11:16:46 AM
Maybe I've missed it but...where's located ETN temple?

 There's no ETN temple in Thenial province. However, they used to have one before the OIT-ETN-EOM conflict, so there would still be some old temple buildings around.
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: DM B June 05, 2009, 11:19:05 AM
There are undoubtedly temples/shrines to Nesirie in Thenial. Even if there are no temple holdings.
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: X-DM Jon June 05, 2009, 11:20:57 AM
Ah, the joys of 1st level clerical magic  ::)
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: X-IHH/Wallac Isilviere (Kasper) June 05, 2009, 11:23:39 AM
Anyone that leaves the temple before the undead are gone will be seized and dragged to sea; simple as that.

I assume the Speaker of the dead utterly ignore Wallac when he spoke from the top of the temple/shrine/whatever yes?
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: X-DM Jon June 05, 2009, 11:30:41 AM
Words don't tend to work that well on the undead. 1st level clerical spells on the other hand... ;)
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: X-SRT/Saender Ghoried (Shido) June 05, 2009, 11:32:50 AM
Words don't tend to work that well on the undead. 1st level clerical spells on the other hand... ;)
especially something ending with ... undead?  :)
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: X-SASI/Orthien Tane (Rune) June 05, 2009, 11:39:08 AM
Words don't tend to work that well on the undead. 1st level clerical spells on the other hand... ;)
especially something ending with ... undead?  :)

Things have taken a turn for the worse, I'd say  ;D
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: X-DM Jon June 05, 2009, 11:40:49 AM
Words don't tend to work that well on the undead. 1st level clerical spells on the other hand... ;)
especially something ending with ... undead?  :)

Things have taken a turn for the worse, I'd say  ;D

 Well sometimes it's best to hide your fear from the undead  :P
They smell fear!
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: X-SASI/Orthien Tane (Rune) June 05, 2009, 11:44:26 AM
Sometimes it's actually best to use a stick to avoid getting hit on your head by tree branches and thus avoid falling down in a hole in the ground.
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: X-DM Jon June 05, 2009, 11:46:56 AM
Sometimes it's actually best to use a stick to avoid getting hit on your head by tree branches and thus avoid falling down in a hole in the ground.

 Is that a 1st level cleric spell  ;D - sounds like quite the sanctuary
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: X-SASI/Orthien Tane (Rune) June 05, 2009, 11:49:58 AM
Clerical spell or not, it's at least sound advice whenever going on an adventure with Bjørn as the DM  :D

Actually I think it's a psionic "spell". Too bad we don't have any psionics in RoE, it sounds like it would be most useful right now.
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: DM B June 05, 2009, 12:11:56 PM
Anyone wants to go on an adventure involving A) Undead or B) The SW or C) Both?

They can sign up in the Governor's palace in Seaward... ::)
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: X-IHH/Wallac Isilviere (Kasper) June 05, 2009, 12:16:18 PM
All the priests present, save poor Celina, have lost their divine powers. You have helped, or did not try hard enough to prevent, a horde of undead from entering the Daylight World. An act more heinous or stupid would be hard to imagine. Penance is in order...surelythere must be acts of goodness that can wash away the stain upon your souls!?

I guess it cannot be any different but the use of undead was totally against my and my regents wishes. If for Bjørns statement that only entering the temple was near safe, Wallac would have fleed the village along with all that would follow.

That said I've found the adventure really entertaining - thanks to all for your part  :)
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: X-IHH/Wallac Isilviere (Kasper) June 05, 2009, 12:17:36 PM
Anyone wants to go on an adventure involving A) Undead or B) The SW or C) Both?

They can sign up in the Governor's palace in Seaward... ::)

Remember to bring along Maire or only one of the two things can be achieved  :D
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: X-IHH/Wallac Isilviere (Kasper) June 05, 2009, 12:20:17 PM
What are the consequences for a temple domain with a regent out of favour with the boss? Sadly I should think stability loss or perhaps even a forced change of leadership; That would surely make Archbishop Bellamie most happy.
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: X-DM Jon June 05, 2009, 12:23:23 PM
It depends on the temple's current situation I would think - and whether it is a competitive temple. And on what the leader actually does.
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: X-IHH/Wallac Isilviere (Kasper) June 05, 2009, 12:34:31 PM
And I am sadly void of any ideas of what kind of action to take; but that could well be IC for Wallac - he is completely devastated. His erstwhile ally, the High Priestess of ETN, Maire, has committed the most gruesome attrocity, and if not exactly on purpose, then against all better judgement and utterly ignoring any interference. And a sleeping village paid for it with all but an infants life.

How can justice be served? Sadly I can not see any other way than the High Priestess must take responsebility for her acts though that wont bring back the dead [oh no I mean the dead villagers]

Damn it!
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: X-IHH/Wallac Isilviere (Kasper) June 05, 2009, 12:42:42 PM
I consider having Wallac escape Lachlans restrain and be dragged to the sea and drown together with the villagers - will such a retcon be possible?
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: X-DM Jon June 05, 2009, 12:52:44 PM
Well... She's guilty of doing the act, the rest of you priests are guilty of letting it happen and doing nothing to stop it. You knew what would happen if they got through to the real world...
 A certain amount of ignorance of what would actually happen, protects her from the full extent of the deed. But you don't play around with negative energy as a priest of a benevolent deity.

 Thus there's no doubt that you should all take a long and hard talk with your deities. But how to get into contact with them? Holy quest time.
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: X-DM Jon June 05, 2009, 12:57:08 PM
I consider having Wallac escape Lachlans restrain and be dragged to the sea and drown together with the villagers - will such a retcon be possible?

 I say go for it, run down from the temple roof, out the temple, down to the sea and see what happens.
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: X-IHH/Wallac Isilviere (Kasper) June 05, 2009, 01:03:20 PM
I can do that?

Say godbye to Wallac :-[
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: X-EOM/SS (Marco) June 05, 2009, 01:15:53 PM
Bjorn has written

"All the priests present, save poor Celina, have lost their divine powers. You have helped, or did not try hard enough to prevent, a horde of undead from entering the Daylight World. An act more heinous or stupid would be hard to imagine. Penance is in order...surelythere must be acts of goodness that can wash away the stain upon your souls!?"

does this count also for Sarae, since her alignment?
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: X-DM Jon June 05, 2009, 01:18:23 PM
Bjorn has written

"All the priests present, save poor Celina, have lost their divine powers. You have helped, or did not try hard enough to prevent, a horde of undead from entering the Daylight World. An act more heinous or stupid would be hard to imagine. Penance is in order...surelythere must be acts of goodness that can wash away the stain upon your souls!?"

does this count also for Sarae, since her alignment?

 Eloele is the goddess of thieves and the night, she's just as opposed to the undead as any of the goodie two shoes gods. So yeah, it counts for you as well.
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: X-EOM/SS (Marco) June 05, 2009, 01:18:23 PM
Guys, this adventure was funny.

Kasper, Libor and Mark (in alphabeticcally order) and Bjorn/Jon, thanks a lot...

you were great
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: X-Elinie/RiD (Niels) June 05, 2009, 01:50:53 PM
Bah... that was an easy out Kasper! - I'd much better have liked to see the Pontiff live with the horror of his deeds.
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: X-Mieres & SAS/AV (Mark) June 05, 2009, 01:54:13 PM
I don't suppose it was possible for the Governor to grab the Pontiff as he ran out of the temple and bludgeon HIM unconscious.

Damned if the Governor is going to add the death of the Pontiff to the heap of shit already piled at his feet. 
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: X-DM Jon June 05, 2009, 01:56:41 PM
I don't suppose it was possible for the Governor to grab the Pontiff as he ran out of the temple and bludgeon HIM unconscious.

Damned if the Governor is going to add the death of the Pontiff to the heap of shit already piled at his feet.

lol! As I said, do your thing and see what happens. Just because Bjørn has defined a part of the story doesn't mean it's over. However, talking about it OoC isn't going to get you anywhere.
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: X-IHH/Wallac Isilviere (Kasper) June 05, 2009, 01:57:06 PM
But Wallac would not sorry to disapoint you Niels.

Actually I thought from Libors last post before Bjørn transported us all back that Maire had changed her mind and tried to stop what she was doing. Unfortunately Bjørn thought otherwise. This is ultimately how I perceive Wallac and he was after all regent for a temple to a god with courage as a chief portifolio
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: X-Mieres & SAS/AV (Mark) June 05, 2009, 02:01:21 PM
lol! As I said, do your thing and see what happens. Just because Bjørn has defined a part of the story doesn't mean it's over. However, talking about it OoC isn't going to get you anywhere.

Good point - I just wondered as the IHH post ended with the Pontiff being dead.  I'll post at least something and let the dice fall where they may.
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: X-IHH/Wallac Isilviere (Kasper) June 05, 2009, 02:02:07 PM
I don't suppose it was possible for the Governor to grab the Pontiff as he ran out of the temple and bludgeon HIM unconscious.

Damned if the Governor is going to add the death of the Pontiff to the heap of shit already piled at his feet.

I think she it trying to tear a hole in the Veil.

Man the Baron of Serien is gonna be PISSED

Baron Zenneth - So Governor how did things go.

Governor Vamuel - Not well, got ambushed by Gnolls and stuck in the shadow world for a time - but we did learn some important information and managed to foil an assassination attempt against your spymaster and the regents got back alive.

Baron Zenneth - Well at least it ended well then.

Governor Vamuel - Yeah well go to go - Oh! I forgot, we also ripped a permanent hold into the Shadow World and let thousand of shambling undead into your realm.  Anyway drop me a line next time your in Seaward!"

Baron Zenneth - Wait - WHAT??!!!

Swap with his last statement
Governor Vamuel - Yeah well go to go - Oh! I forgot, we also ripped a permanent hold into the Shadow World and let thousand of shambling undead into your realm, getting a whole village drowned along with the Pontiff.  Anyway drop me a line next time your in Seaward!"

 ;D

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: X-DM Jon June 05, 2009, 02:03:39 PM
lol! As I said, do your thing and see what happens. Just because Bjørn has defined a part of the story doesn't mean it's over. However, talking about it OoC isn't going to get you anywhere.

Good point - I just wondered as the IHH post ended with the Pontiff being dead.  I'll post at least something and let the dice fall where they may.


Aye, just as Kasper has taken certain liberties with the story. So you can take liberties with his. Nothing like a good knock on the head to send a fellow to dreamland eh


 What's with the quote function!? It's not supposed to include the reply in a quote on it's own... Strange
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: X-IHH/Wallac Isilviere (Kasper) June 05, 2009, 02:05:19 PM
Please don't - please just let him make his attempt to stop the undead tide
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: X-IHH/Wallac Isilviere (Kasper) June 05, 2009, 02:06:43 PM
Heh and seems I also got cursed for killing the Pontiff... What jerk did that? No don't tell  :P
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: X-DM Jon June 05, 2009, 02:11:05 PM
Please don't - please just let him make his attempt to stop the undead tide

 Terribly sorry, you're going to have to live with what has happened and what you did or did not do. Live to do something about it, not die completely in vain so the sacrifice of all those people who served you and died was worthless. Haelyn does not want your death, he wants your willing and worthy service in life. As does Nesirie and Eloele of their priestesses.

 So you screwed up? But at least you're alive and able to do something about what has transpired! Take heart from that and don't bother with the ignominy, it only lasts until you set it right!
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: X-IHH/Wallac Isilviere (Kasper) June 05, 2009, 02:15:05 PM
This stinks!

Shall I make a post where one of my templar clubs the Governor right before he does Wallac and let the Governor dream that hed succeeded and its only Wallac having a dream - its get rather impossible dont it?
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: X-IHH/Wallac Isilviere (Kasper) June 05, 2009, 02:18:06 PM
So you screwed up? But at least you're alive and able to do something about what has transpired! Take heart from that and don't bother with the ignominy, it only lasts until you set it right!

I just set it right - I joined those poor bastards beneath the waves and they would have had Wallac to look after them in the afterlife but for the interference from Mark and Jon. The villagers are probably better of though
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: X-IHH/Wallac Isilviere (Kasper) June 05, 2009, 02:21:16 PM
No wait Wallac club's Maire with a special tool called a "ret-con" - right back when the Governor could not stomach doing so and everything since has been a dream of Maire's - how is that?

Scene: Corpses lie on the beach and Maire lies in an old temple in the Shadow World. Standing over her is Wallac gleefully laughing. "Never saw that one comming now did ya?"
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: DM B June 05, 2009, 02:21:44 PM
Bah... that was an easy out Kasper! - I'd much better have liked to see the Pontiff live with the horror of his deeds.

Me too. Which is why the Guvner, being a high-level rogue and all, managed to sneak-attack him to oblivion...
: Re: MIRROR - To see the Obelisk of Thenial
: X-DM Jon June 05, 2009, 02:29:19 PM
No wait Wallac club's Maire with a special tool called a "ret-con" - right back when the Governor could not stomach doing so and everything since has been a dream of Maire's - how is that?

Scene: Corpses lie on the beach and Maire lies in an old temple in the Shadow World. Standing over her is Wallac gleefully laughing. "Never saw that one comming now did ya?"

 You were not allowed to retcon anything, I urged you to take the story from the point it had reached. Which obviously allowed the others to react to your actions as well.
: Re: MIRROR - To see the Obelisk of Thenial
: X-Mieres & SAS/AV (Mark) June 05, 2009, 02:30:58 PM
Me too. Which is why the Guvner, being a high-level rogue and all, managed to sneak-attack him to oblivion...

GO GO Sneak Attack Dice!  ;D
: Re: MIRROR - To see the Obelisk of Thenial
: X-Mieres & SAS/AV (Mark) June 05, 2009, 02:38:20 PM
You were not allowed to retcon anything, I urged you to take the story from the point it had reached. Which obviously allowed the others to react to your actions as well.

Actually I felt kinda bad about interfering personally - as it was kind of a poetic death.  The Governor though... well he sure as hell doesn't care about the poetics - he just cares about not having to explain the Pontiff's death on top of anything else
: Re: MIRROR - To see the Obelisk of Thenial
: X-Mieres & SAS/AV (Mark) June 05, 2009, 02:40:13 PM
On that note the priests asking for an explanation... well the Governor's first thought is to lie through his teeth...  but Wallac probably won't go for that.  Sarae maybe, but Wallac is a no.
: Re: MIRROR - To see the Obelisk of Thenial
: X-IHH/Wallac Isilviere (Kasper) June 05, 2009, 02:42:02 PM
Heh now you are going to regret you saved him lol
: Re: MIRROR - To see the Obelisk of Thenial
: X-DM Jon June 05, 2009, 02:43:42 PM
That's the spirit  ;D
: Re: MIRROR - To see the Obelisk of Thenial
: DM B June 05, 2009, 02:45:02 PM
OK, enough OOC chatter...1000 posts and nothing on.