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TP.net => The Great Beyond (OOC) => : X-Elinie/RiD (Niels) April 15, 2010, 05:06:46 PM
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Hello all!
This is an OOC heads-up, that the adventure to destroy or imprison the Vampire Lord; Manethander, the Grey Duke, is taking place this turn.
If you are anywhere near Elinie, you can expect an IC contact in the near future, asking if you have adventurers or other resources that can be used against this foe.
I do it this way, since too often, people are planning their actions very early in the turn, committing to actions. - SO! - Not you know, please reserve an action to go fight the undead if you are inclined to heed the call!
P.S. I plan to inform the Conclave, so any temple member is almost sure to hear the call.
Link to Adventure thread: http://roe.twilightpeaks.net/forum/index.php?topic=1085.0
Link to War thread: http://roe.twilightpeaks.net/forum/index.php?topic=1088.0
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I'm in!
:P
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The temples seems eh a bit distracted by some stuff taking place in Ilien. Perhaps you better send that call real soon if you wish to be heard over the conclave members yelling at each other ;)
But I am suiteable impressed that the Patriarch will lead such a dangerous venture into harms way himself :-)
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I probably won't go. I feel Im short of expendable regents right now.
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Heh maybe I should send the Pontiff ;)
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I suppose it is too much to hope that the Patrirach has some sort of plan? Perhaps some anti-vampire weapons, etc? Support from the shadow world people who helped last time?
I suggest that the Patriarch calls in the OIT and Osoerde both of which seem keen to be involved.
Robhan is busy with goblins at present, but I have a looey ready for the slaughter. I'd appreciate them back in one piece but have somewhat bad feelings about the idle ramble into spok central that appears planned,
Sigh, I think my turns actions are all taken before I've even thought about what I might want to do, the joy of being a temple...
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I'll be sending out IC calls tomorrow evening by the looks of it. Got my grandmothers birthday tomorrow, starting ridiculously early, but ending early as well. :)
I do hope to find the time for a few research actions that might yield some last minute hope. - Tshalen is still lost somewhere though, and he had a bloody big and tough army with him. I worry we may need serious troop support to break in. (Of course, that might just allow their weak minds to be overwhelmed and attack Us.)
I think it really will be easiest to coordinate so many people by getting the IC adventure thread up ASAP, and all "to all participants" dispatches can be put there.
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Why is it again the Patriarch think now is the right moment? And why on his call?
Just out of curiosity for without a clear plan I think it just might end up with a bunch of pc running around and taking shifts being clowns with vampire bites in their necks :o
Just make sure to, IC, to take heed and else cover your arse 8)
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Indeed.
What is certain is that Manethander has the coveted Book of Law, and is using it to break from his prison. - And he will succeed on the Night of the Dead this season.
So, the strike is this season. I am performing more research that might give an edge. His minions are harmed by silver and can be kept at bay with holy symbols. - He himself is all but impossible to destroy. I believe re-barring his tomb is the probable result. - But again, more IC tonight, I do not have time right now.
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I see the adventure thread, The Bonds Would Break on the Eve of the Dead, has been started but I've yet to se the OoC announced invitation on forum
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The invitation is up. I could not bear the thought of sending individual emails to you all, bear with me and pretend you got one. :)
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For Bjørn, regarding the non-stealthy approach (calling for Dr. Allcome), yes that is inevitable in this situation.
Getting the forces of evil out in the open might mean a greater foe, but we have no more time, and with a little luck, we'll have the opportunity to destroy the entire network if they reveal themselves.
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:) Methinks, this is going to go poorly. How prepared are people really?
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You mean how prepared are people to see what they send there to die instead of returning home?
As a Haelyn temples I can not see I have any real choice but to come with whatever I got
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Yeah. I've got that feeling of impending doom and I'm not even going ;D.
Just don't throw rocks at ancient artifacts... it never works out well - trust me.
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:) Methinks, this is going to go poorly. How prepared are people really?
I'm doing some last minute research to gain a few more tricks. - But surely the mighty Osoer is participating, yes?
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Yeah. I've got that feeling of impending doom and I'm not even going ;D.
Just don't throw rocks at ancient artifacts... it never works out well - trust me.
Speaking from a purely observational point of view, you can't really say that, if you haven't tried it more than once.
If I were you, I'd fling a few more rocks at various artifacts and note the reaction - maybe even pen them down. Then afterwards, you can try to make some kind of qualified guess based on that. :D
Also you need to work out what kind of reaction you are hoping for in the first place. Is "nothing happens" a good thing or bad, or do you intend to use the last result as a basis of future reasearch?
Really, this is something you should dedicate the rest of your life to, methinks.
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also, it is very entertaining to read about. :D
P.S.
It may come as a surprise, but I don't think I have anything to spare for this.
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Perhaps I can add to the research : I'm throwing rocks at the castle in Devien for some while and nothing ... perhaps it is not the proper kind of artifacts, but anyways, I'm going to apply "Mercenary theorem no. 99 :"
In case throwing rocks at artifacts of any kind results in nothing, apply heavier rock.
Back to the topic - any volunteer to relieve me from throwing rocks at the damn castle? I think black baron is perfect for this type of suicidal adventures :)
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How about the Green Knight? I am sure he could prove quite usefull in this epic adventure
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How about the Green Knight? I am sure he could prove quite usefull in this epic adventure
He did not return from the Ilien adventure last season.
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How about the Green Knight? I am sure he could prove quite usefull in this epic adventure
He is....... unavailble
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How about the Green Knight? I am sure he could prove quite usefull in this epic adventure
He is....... unavailble
The Countess is... taking care of him. ;)
As for my participation, I have to say what I've said to several things so far - I'll have to finish the thread I'm in with Bjorn before I can be sure. But unless something radically changes, Tristan will most probably be joining this effort. Niels, he'll probably talk to you about it when he meets you in Moriel - I'm guessing we'll wind up going from there to this adventure. I'll hopefully have some of my own news to bring, as well.
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The Aegis tried several research actions, but got nowhere - someone had clearly come along beforehand and removed incriminating records...
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The Aegis tried several research actions, but got nowhere - someone had clearly come along beforehand and removed incriminating records...
Yes, possibly my family to the Elinien Royal Library. Which is why I am looking high and low for someone to agitate in Osoeriene, so I can influence That action and spend another of my own on research.
I have also an inkling that Bjørn revealed that some information was not available until a descendant of Daouta is at the actual location. So I may run in to a dead end too.
The only things we know is that holy water, wafers, silver and holy symbols are efficient tools. Strength of mind and blood helps too. Sunlight helps most of all... But that is going to be hard to find without serious realm magic making it happen.
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The Aegis tried several research actions, but got nowhere - someone had clearly come along beforehand and removed incriminating records...
Yes, possibly my family to the Elinien Royal Library. Which is why I am looking high and low for someone to agitate in Osoeriene, so I can influence That action and spend another of my own on research.
*****'s. Osoeriene, check,
I have also an inkling that Bjørn revealed that some information was not available until a descendant of Daouta is at the actual location. So I may run in to a dead end too.
Yes, we are rapidly running out of Daouta's...
The only things we know is that holy water, wafers, silver and holy symbols are efficient tools. Strength of mind and blood helps too. Sunlight helps most of all... But that is going to be hard to find without serious realm magic making it happen.
The holy stuff we have by the bucket, if you fancy garlic I can arrange it. I was thinking more along the lines of magical weapons, means in and out of the shadow world, local guides/allies, defences against illusions/charms, etc.
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Magic items make for a poorer world flavor wise. :P
An item of Deathward is obviously something that would be priceless on a mission like this, blocking drain of ability scores and levels. - But, unfortunately I do not even dare ask for it, since I get shot down hard every time I being up that items could sometimes be nice to have as part of your character.
At adventure level, our ECL and actions will count. Not which items we bring, unless near artifact type items specifically for the task at hand. - Like the Sun Sword is obviously strong vs. undead, it is not overwhelmingly so.
As for a local guide, Daouta's, or maybe just the ruling line, can locate the lair just by trying. Shadow world stuff... Well, thats not my forté, but I find it given that it will be involved, since a large numbers of troops are currently not possibly to find in our world.
Oh, what did you say about Osoeriene? - You got censored. :)
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How about the Green Knight? I am sure he could prove quite usefull in this epic adventure
He is....... unavailble
The Countess is... taking care of him. ;)
As for my participation, I have to say what I've said to several things so far - I'll have to finish the thread I'm in with Bjorn before I can be sure. But unless something radically changes, Tristan will most probably be joining this effort. Niels, he'll probably talk to you about it when he meets you in Moriel - I'm guessing we'll wind up going from there to this adventure. I'll hopefully have some of my own news to bring, as well.
The same is also true of Osoer. He needs to finish his thread - and the news of the Grey Duke isn't likely to reach him before WM 4 if not WM 5 or WM 6, and it will take more time to make it to the battle, particular since nothing says where the battle will take place...
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An item of Deathward is obviously something that would be priceless on a mission like this, blocking drain of ability scores and levels. - But, unfortunately I do not even dare ask for it, since I get shot down hard every time I being up that items could sometimes be nice to have as part of your character.
I think one thing you COULD do is to spend actions specifically aimed at gathering proper equipment for the effort. For instance, using Diplomacy with a wizard (like Kalieman?) to have him create magical items for the heroes going might give a bonus to their ECL's for this adventure. Or contracting with the dwarves of B-A to prepare silver blades for a unit of Regulars or the officers of the units participating. In that situation, the items become the inventiveness and flavor of the actions spent in support of the adventure, which seems perfectly in line with how the game operates to me. The important part being that actions are spent in support, and they are clever and on-target in their purpose and descriptions.
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I buy that one Bobby. Diplomacy and some GB spent to get silver weapons. How much for 4 units? All Crack so I guess my budget supervisor will aprove ::)
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Your time might be spent better learning a realm spell that produces the same effect as well - maybe a version of Bless Weapon or something like that.
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Probably right but I like the dwarf fluff better. I have also been suggested that a court action would suffice but again I like the dwarven fluff besides a diplomacy action represent a greater effort since it requires both a regent and a court action.
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Robhan is also busy and almost incommunicado, but one of his marshals has been waiting for the call. Armies are another matter, they take time and permissions of various sorts.
My post wasn't censored, I just didn't want to insult a certain noble family which has nixed several actions by carefully hiding the evidence that I needed to find to aid them.
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In regard to armies if permissions get to be an issue I am not really going to care - going after the Grey Duke IHH approach along "its easier to get forgiveness than to get permission". I dont exactly know where those armies end but if on someones land that I dont have access to I will not stop - IHH will pay the cost in GB and hope they dont get too mad but IHH wont accept any hindrances but their own deaths
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There's definitely two halves to this, as it's shaping up - the mass scale and the adventure scale.
On the subject of armies: Niels, do you have any way of getting armies into the Shadow World? From what you've said, the action isn't happening on this side of the Veil. 10,000 Crack Knights armed with Holy Avengers won't do any good if they can't get to the enemy. Commentary from anyone else with access to the appropriate magics is welcome.
On the subject of heroes: Do you have any way of weeding out Manethander's Fifth Column before launching the adventure? I'd hate to get stabbed in the back as well as the front.
On BOTH subjects: If ANYONE has a way to get Dispel Realm Magic into there, I will pay them ten billion GB.
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First of all, what province is it actually taking place in? I assume this info would be in the dispatch, or does the patriarch intend to keep that secret?
Sadly, that is the sort of thing one needs to know a turn in advance. If I had known it in advance, I might have created a ley line. Ley Lines take a full turn to create, I think, so... not really an option.
Or can ley lines actually be created in-turn Bjørn?
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I have no known method of crossing over.
Its beyond my resources to weed out the 5th column in time.
The adventure will likely begin by a gathering in Ansien, then a move into the Grey Hills. - I do not think it wise for anyone to travel inside the grey hills to "meet us there" sort of thing. Odd things happen in the Hills.
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On BOTH subjects: If ANYONE has a way to get Dispel Realm Magic into there, I will pay them ten billion GB.
I can manage. Fork over the billion.
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On BOTH subjects: If ANYONE has a way to get Dispel Realm Magic into there, I will pay them ten billion GB.
I can manage. Fork over the billion.
The check's in the mail.
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So let me get this straight.
There are really only 2 realm magic capable spellcasters that can aid against the Grey Duke - the LPA and the HA?
Methinks we might have targets on our backs...
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LPA should also be prepared for MoC exploiting the situation for some conversion spells while LPA's focus elsewhere - yet another sacrifice to be made for the greater good. I dont particularly expect my regent and all his AA's to return nor the best part of IHH's templars.
Fact is we could have prepared a lot better but we did not. Now we are facing the consequences and have to try to adjust to them as best we can (or accept the results be they good or not)
But while it last we are probably going to have a hell of a time ;D
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So let me get this straight.
There are really only 2 realm magic capable spellcasters that can aid against the Grey Duke - the LPA and the HA?
Methinks we might have targets on our backs...
What do you mean, 'might'? There's a good chance Robbie won't even live to get there at the moment.
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What do you mean, 'might'? There's a good chance Robbie won't even live to get there at the moment.
You forget - I am with you too...
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Upon hearing of all these efforts the Duchess emissary to the City of Anuire Lauriel Anviraele delivers a note to the Holly Pontiff.
"Our Duchess servant Pervince Millbridge Silversleep, one renowned Halfling of no small amount of skills regarding the Veil and it’s intricate properties, may on the word of the Duchess offer advice and council on Your endeavour, if no direct participation.
We await the honour and joy to be of service to the Ever Most Holly Pontiff Wallac Isilviere.”
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Bjørn, the call also went out to Maester Kaleiman. Has he answered it?
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He too is in Morcosoer.
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He too is in Morcosoer.
If you break him you buy him! :o
I need my Court Mage!
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I am bringing:
Droene Kavarra
Army Units:
2 Regulars
1 Archer
1 Outrider
1 Scout
2 Skirmishers
I'll probably be doing some stuff in Mhoried to keep the HA safe.
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Strictly OoC:
Before Wallac turns up to meet the Patriarch of Elinie & Co I really would like to know what way if any his 4 units have taken; if the 4 units are present. I've posted a little silly dump question in Q & A section to be found here:
http://roe.twilightpeaks.net/forum/index.php?topic=1086.0 (http://roe.twilightpeaks.net/forum/index.php?topic=1086.0)
Please feel free to post a reply and enlight me. The Pontiff supposedly took his 4 units from Ghoried (a nothern province in Roesone south-east of the Spider Fell) to Fairfield. From there how to reach Ansien is a question to Wallac. He would like to go north through the lands of the Swordmage to go with her (and possible army units from Roesone since she is the wife of the Baron of Roesone now fighting for Avan in the West). Before leaving the last areas with IHH temple holdings Wallac would like to boost his units with two realmmagic spells to improve their slim chance of survival a little.
IHH attempt to bring:
Regent (Wallac Isilviere), pure cleric, Major BS
Lieutenant (Saraene Bellamie), pure cleric but 1 lvl of nobel, Minor BS
Personal assistant (Rogal Destar), pure cleric but 1 lvl of rogue, unblooded
Lannelah Lachlan (Henchman), exact levels not known but 10+ and mostly Eldritch Knight Unblooded
2 Units Crack Armsmen Mounted
2 Units Crack Dragoons Mounted
Will likely cast following realm magic spells before leaving Roesone and can burn the regency needed to cast it on 5 other units as well if they meet IHH's units before they leave Roesone (if Roesone units go with us to Ansien they should be the obvious targets for those spells)
The 2 spell will last for rest of season unless dispelled actively:
2nd lvl Aid the Righteous
3rd lvl Vestment of the Gods
Besides the Swordmage will cast a realmmagic spell of her own on the units from IHH; Weapons of Steel and Murder (giving +2 magic weapons on the units). Before Wallac knew that he made arrangements (or rather an attempt) to get the dwarfs of the Royal Guild to equip his units with silver weapons. I dont know if any of the units will get the silver weapons though it would not really matter with the +2 from SM. I like it fluff wise though and besides Wallac did not know back when he made the arrangements so the GB's should like get burned anyway (Your call though Bjørn)
EDIT 1:
As suggested by Alexander:
Ghoried (0) - Bheline (1) - Rhumannen (2) - Tornilen (1) - Conallier (1) - Thoralinar (2) - Chalsedon (1) - Ansien (1)
With a bit of delay due to dispatch service being oh soooo sloow end in Bheline in VM 4 IHH realmmagic x 2? Then in Cornallier in VM 5 (assuming Bheline VM 5 etc), get some SM realmmagic and follow together with the SM units to Ansien in VM 6 (again assuming Bheline in VM 4)
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Alright folks, what I am bringing so far...
Tornilen Troops
1 Armsmen
2 Regulars
2 Archers
2 Scouts
1 Surprise!
Roesonian Troops
1 Knights
1 Armsmen
However, I am pulling some extra units forth from... somewhere else.
It looks like we will be arriving in Ansien in WM 7.
I am of course bringing the Swordmage (ECL 12-ish) and Commander Gaerik Bellerran (ECL 4).
The route should be:
Ghoried - Bheline - Rhumannen - Tornilen (WM5) - Thoralinar (WM6) - Chalsedon - Ansien (WM7). The spellcasting takes place in Bheline and Thoralinar.
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Besides the Swordmage will cast a realmmagic spell of her own on the units from IHH; Weapons of Steel and Murder (giving +2 magic weapons on the units). Before Wallac knew that he made arrangements (or rather an attempt) to get the dwarfs of the Royal Guild to equip his units with silver weapons. I dont know if any of the units will get the silver weapons though it would not really matter with the +2 from SM. I like it fluff wise though and besides Wallac did not know back when he made the arrangements so the GB's should like get burned anyway (Your call though Bjørn)
The silver will be handy once the badguys dispel the enchantment spells. >:(
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Final troop rooster that the Swordmage is bringing to the party:
Tornilen
1 Armsmen (Elite; +2 weapons)
2 Regulars (Veteran; +2 weapons)
2 Scouts (Green)
1 Archers (Veteran)
1 Archers (Green)
1 Colossus (+2 weapons)
10 Fire Elementals (Summon Army III)
Roesone
1 Armsmen (Elite; +2 weapons)
1 Knights (Elite; +2 weapons)
Ghieste
1 Skirmishers (Green)
1 Archers (Green)
1 Regulars (Green)
1 Crossbowmen (Green)
1 Pikemen (Green)
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So what is the issue? Too much fast-forwarding?
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I'd think so, yeah. I guess it's a bit different when armies are on the move, than just characters - suddenly there's weeks of marching and careful coordinating before everyone is in Ansien at the same time and ready to talk.
Truth be told that also assumes a rather passive enemy - something I've yet to see in RoE...
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Yes I concur and exactly why Wallac moving with his units had yet to arrive to Ansien and talk to the other regents - even though he moved out as soon as possible for him
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So what is the issue? Too much fast-forwarding?
Yes. You started getting into detail regarding what units arrived where and when. Had it just been you regent and supporting cast, no problem, but when armies are involved I'd rather do it in the correct order.
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Makes sense, I've got myself confused of late when it was just regents.
Marshal Edwin Balter will arrive sometime fairly early on with a handful of men, ready to do battle in the Shadow World. Balter will probably be a little confused by the absence of the anyone else from the Aegis but assume that the troops will turn up soon...
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So, how do we get it back on track? If we leave off all the planning until we reach warmove 7-8 then we are going to be pressed for time to finish planning before the turn deadline.
Perhaps if we go back to the thread, everyone edits out their armies and whatnot and we let it represent an early council - where we decide what to do. I have a hard time imagining my regent, or anyone else's, coming to Elinie and staying there for two months until we actually start. Regent are busy people - a council at the beginning of the year, followed by a last council in Ansien near the Eve of the Dead, makes sense.
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Works fine for me... But other events are also moving fast. I have received word that someone is invading someone else, which is most certainly not what they are supposed to be doing.
So, I think maybe someone is not someone, but rather the same someone else that we are worried might not remain passive.
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Should I assume my units remain in Ghoried for now since I've received no word they are moving out yet? My intend is to change status from garrison (as nasty mistake by me not having realized that rules now says it take long time to do!), then move them to Bheline and cast a 2nd and a 3rd level realm magic spell, then continue onwards
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I have no plans for completing the adventure before the DO is handed in. It will be resolved after.
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Ah, then I suppose it's alright.
Time to go back to the wreck of my plans this turn.
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I have no plans for completing the adventure before the DO is handed in. It will be resolved after.
Do I understand you correctly then when I think not a single move of the units involved will get dealt with before DO's have been turned in?
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I have no plans for completing the adventure before the DO is handed in. It will be resolved after.
Do I understand you correctly then when I think not a single move of the units involved will get dealt with before DO's have been turned in?
I have no plans for completing the adventure before the DO is handed in. It will be resolved after.
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Ilien is bringing:
To the war:
3rd Swordmen ; Regulars(Skilled)
2nd Light Infantry ; Irregulars(Skilled)
To the Adventure:
Baronettess Tilgentor
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It hasn't been long and already the soldiers have begun quarreling. The IHH templars are prickly fellows who are loathe to take orders from sun-loving Khinasi and their allies.
The colossus of Tornilen is causing more fear than anything...and it's not like the soldiers of Tornilen are really welcome in these parts. Already there have been incidents between them (who are largely Cuiarécen men) and the highly religious men of Elinie (largely Avanale and Haelyn).
Perhaps this was not such a great idea.
A pissing contence and allthough we know who will win being on their home turf this is so much going to be used against us later when the Grey fella poke our respective units. Now when to say it is "just normal arrogance" and when it is"mindcontrolled ghouls" ::)
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(As soon as) Baronettess Tilgentor (finds out that she is part of a collum that actively agress against the people she is here to help she) thanks the Pontiff (or one of his officers) and the Duchess (or one of her officers) for the escort. She then (orderly breaks formation and) informs an Elinien sergent that the troops that Countess el-Mesir of Ilien were able to send are ready to be escorted to their camp site.
Spirit seems to be high among the Ilieneese units as they distance distance themselfs from the Giant living statue and the moving blobs of fire.
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I believe she dont find out a thing before after having arrived safely to camp but OoC Niels can note your willingness to oblige ;D
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OOC: It is irrelevant if it takes Ilien 5 minutes or 15 hours to extract themselves from the column. Since they are not physically disabled and have horses, they will be able to speak to Elinien troops eventually, who will in all likelihood help them extract. (And with "help" I do not mean trying to use force against your hooligans. I mean leading them to alternate paths.)
Especially if its obvious to observers that IHH is being abusive about it.
I don't like the attempt to dictate what is possible for another player to do or not. You can play with the timing, sure, but short of doing something really horribly stupid, Ilien's all mounted units can turn left and leave with moments notice and go back on the road up ahead.
In particular since the column is now reduced to walking pace with the Armsmen now on foot.
It can also, safely, be assumed even if not detailed, that all participating factions in the column have scouts at the head, or at the very minimum sends up scouts as soon as an order to stop comes down. - Controlling information in the column might work if it was in a tunnel, but you are on the wide open plains.
I'll not make more comments on this particular event, but feel free to post your comment.
EDIT: I believe the Ilien contingent is both mounted and consisting of units light enough to be able to forgo having actual wagons with them.
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OoC: I would say Ilien can send up someone to investigate what takes place first unless they have magic means to know what takes place a kilometer or more up ahead. Then they can attempt to move away from the road and pass the collum in front of them with their wagon and all their stuff. It goes without saying they are not exactly popular with the IHH for this feat. Should they try to force their way through the units of IHH on the road they will be hindered. In the later case there will be some sort of fallout later.
Dictate? I would mean I did not. But fact is the juniors of Ilien turned up unannounced without prior arrangement in Roesone and was integrated in a collum. So how they where to be placed was not without MY influence. But I did write it OoC and I specifically started with "I would say.."
The collum have been walking pace all the time since Tornilien due to other units having lower speed. I meant for the wagons and stuff Niels. And if you know something about how close packed bodies of troops marched its not exactly easy to take over during the march. Not without active cooperation.
But the Facisit followers of the Sun god did try to dictate all sort of stuff :P
But I would like to know for sure wether or not the Ilien soldiers try to disengage from the collum and move up ahead (take over the collum with all their wagons and stuff) or if they dont. Then I will know how to handle it IC in case the units involved meet again later
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Come on people.
Does this really matter?
Yes, Elinie was rude. Yes, Bellamie and, to a minor degree, IHH overreacted. Yes, the Swordmage suddenly ran ahead and had a meeting, apparantly forgetting to meet with the IHH. Yes, tensions are high. However, we are being silly and breaking mood.
I suggest:
Somehow Ilien's troops moved past, once they were moving it was just easier to let them pass.
Somehow Wallac and Marya agrees to keep scouts out at the 1-3 miles range and just keep going.
Somehow we all arrive at our designated camps and then go to participate in the meeting.
SOMEHOW WE ALL HAVE CAKE.
I'll have two pieces.
Let's move on people, let's get to the interesting stuff. And for the record, I am trying to be constructive and make suggestions, I am not trying to order any other players. This is just my opinion.
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I'll eat my own and Iliens piece of cake :P
Nielse & Linde have it your way - describe what your units do and for all I care make a little merry dance in the end. I am done with my part
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LPA - keep in mind that the Scrying spell does not exist in Anuire and that realm magic is generally required to scry anything... I know you're using divination, but it would also be a kind of anticlimatic solution to the whole problem of the tombs location and the Rashid family's bond.
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Scryings and divinations are very different constructs.
Scryings tells you exactly where something is.
Divinations tell you that something might be a good course of action.
In the past, divinations have been utilizes as non-realm magic.
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I like. Power boost for us spell casters or did I miss something?
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I dont know how divinations work in RoE, but in the D&D campains I have played it was more or less how people that were completely stuck asked the gods for help and more often than not got useless or directly misleading answers.
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I like. Power boost for us spell casters or did I miss something?
Not even close. More often than not, they are little more than ways to advance story/plot.
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Alan - are any Osoerdean units present for the Manethander expedition aside from the Knights I brought myself? I'm not clear on what's actually made it there.
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I have 2 units of crack knights and 2 units of mounted armsmen (crack also).
All are under the command of Tristan.
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Ok, good, they made it. Niels, add to the reserve another Veteran Knight unit - my own contribution.
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I'm in doubt whether Roesonian units will accept outlaw Tristan Belamie as a commander or not - just wondering.
(I bet they've trouble with the SM too, but they were told to accept her ...)
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I'm in doubt whether Roesonian units will accept outlaw Tristan Belamie as a commander or not - just wondering.
(I bet they've trouble with the SM too, but they were told to accept her ...)
Feel free to cause trouble, then. ;) That's half the fun, after all.
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Cool. Half the regent (Drago, SM, TrB & Pontiff try do something with the not yet dead vampire like getting informations) and the other half want it dead right away (LPA, Petg & Elinie) and so kill it before anything can be learned.
What can be learned though is the leadership does not agree. It is however intentionally that I have not posted anything to oppose you three 8)
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All it would take is one utterance from the vampire, along the lines of "Do as we agreed!" - To any one of the persons present. And instantly distrust among us would soar.
But yes, among its lies might also be a clue we could have used. We must go without, or divine from its ashes.
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If Bjørn really wanted to do that he could have done back when it was captured by Drago, or later when Bellamie chained it.. or when oh I could go on. You know Niels while you think you have a point one could also say that 3 regents are afraid of what the Vampire will say and the rest are not.. so who what regents are in league with the shadow.. what will the soldiers think? :P
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"I would also urge you to forbid many of the regents personal guards. Instead, you, the pontiff, and Auxiliary Patriarch Tanar, can select the 2 strongest paladins, 2 of Avanlae, 2 of the All-Father and 2 of the Stormlord. Let them be our guards. Anymore than this, Patriarch and they will become a liability. The Grey Duke favors tactics of subversion, chaos and terror - any more than 15 is a liability that cannot be mitigated," he says.
Oh yes will you not give me an excuse for NOT entering the tomb? "We was there armed and ready. I had brought all I could but our help where not wished. As guests in their land we respected their wish and left the task to be done by the lords of Elinie and those whose help where welcome"
Then I can live out IC how the Pontiff is sadly to get delayed when dealing with the plea for help from LPA in regard to conversion performed by MOC lately. Given that LPA has publicly denounced the Pontiff latest with the killing of the vampire Wallac is not too happy with LPA ::)
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Kasper, keep the OOC OOC and don't mix in IC threats or "leads" to what you will do if you don't get your way IC.
I'm beginning to wonder why the IHH bothered to come, but frankly, as long as you stay IC, you can do whatever you want.
I'll let the other regents make their points in the adventure thread, and if anyone mails me privately thats taking place in the 1 hour pause before Rashid wishes to pick the final team to go.
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Niels I concur mixing OoC with IC threats is not advisable.
In this case it was not intended as a threat but to state what I at the moment of writing found to be obvious. Reading it again this morning I find it less so.
I think we can do the OoC detailed explanations later if ever but in this case I did IC live out what I intended to be the reaction to Wallacs perceptions of the arrogance he and others has been met with from RiD, LPA & EL (in the eyes of Wallac that is).
It was intended to be something that was to be perceived as so with our without OoC (the OoC merely to ensure not to be misunderstood)
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I have to say, I've received similar letters with OOC threats added and it's not endearing.
I understand the need to convey frustration, but doing it OOC as an addendum to what is otherwise rather neutral IC talk doesn't really help.
When the Pontiff for example sends me a polite (yet stern) reprimand in a letter, only to have you add "I am very close to burning down your temples" as an OOC text in the bottom, what am I to do with that information? I can't act on it IC - thus I have to ignore your comment, or I would be meta-gaming. (In that particular case, I took it as one of those cases where the 'send'-button was pressed before rereading the text.)
If you want people to know that the Pontiff is pissed, state it. If you want to have him shaking with barely contained anger, yet smile coldly, state that. But giving a bland and neutral statement IC, only to back it up with an ooc-statement is not the way to go. This just proves the point that it can be very hard for people to gauge the intent of someone through the written word - especially if you keep the Switzerland-attitude :).
- Thorsten
P.S.
I think your post in the conclave where the IHH-representative (William?) yelled and frothed was brilliant. There was no doubt as to his immediate feelings there.
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Thorsten I concur with you.
Understand this though; strange as it may be to some of you I read english almost as my native tongue danish but writting or speaking in an alltogether different matter and often I have to make quite an effort to express my intent and failing to use the time needed to live up to the high quality of posts made on the board I more often than I like find myself writing a post where I have not spend the long time needed (for me that is) to make it clear and carry my intend.
Thus I sometimes add an OoC to the IC to make my intent clear but it is optional to read the OoC and to even care about it.
But ofcause it is not my intent to make a threat OoC - it may be to make a threat IC and THEN make my intent more clear by IC. I think in this case I failed some though NOT acting to something which clearly was something that the Pontiff had a strong oppinion to (as being to being corrected publically by the triumvirat about the Vampire). I guess I should have made an IC post as reply a long this "The Pontiff does not reply to LPA bla bla"
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The army divisions look ok to me. Baron Bellamie will support that arrangement.
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both regiments from Ilien are skilled
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Bjorn - I'll talk with the HA Marshal about Andy's idea re: guides from the other side giving us passage through the thin places in the Veil while Wallac and Master Kaleiman discuss shielding ourselves and perhaps the templars from the water's effects on the mind. Baron Bellamie has a strong preference for NOT going through via the water, as taking the provided route is what led us right into a trap at the well last time. Perhaps if Master Kaleiman and the Baron can weaken the Veil a little further via ritual, the priests can then summon guides of some kind for us?
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With 'the Marshall' I presume you mean the aging Marshal Edwin Balter of the Aegis?
One must wonder what the base speed of a walker is...
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...lets see, the DMG says 1 square...
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[edit] never mind.. I have to learn to read all of the subsequent posts for changes.
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Gaerred goes along but is not the least bit sneaky.
"Goes along?" BUt why? Making all that noise on purpose he can become our needed decoy down here. A small push towards the 500 soldiers and whispering the word in his ear "decoy" :P
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(am I correct in that you're leaving the IHH templars AND sending the poor Marshal over to them, after dragging him in here?)
Rashid disagrees that the Marshal should be left here, alone with the other stragglers. His toil is not over, and leaving him here will not help anyone in particular.
If all goes well, more support will cross over and the stragglers will be fine, with or without him.
If all goes bad, they will be found and chopped down regardless of the Marshal being with them or not.
So, the Patriarch wants the Marshal to come along.
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Wallac is behind the Patriach in his wish though he is carefull not to get between him and his wife. He did bring the old marshall though because he feel both responsibility for him (thus not wanting to leave him behind at the battle) and because he feels he has a roleyet to play. A hunch the All Father have a special task for him before his life is complete (like recovering the Book of Law heh)
OoC: And I will miss Andys nice posts in the adventure thread :)
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Funny how one uses cold hard reasoning, and the other compassion. :)
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Bjørn, the realms meld together, after the heroes has moved into the mountain. So they are now in a place noone else knows they have gone.
But what happens in the valley outside, when the worlds meld? - Are there now several buildings protruding everywhere? - Or did the ruins win out?
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The Shadow World wins :P
It's a blend - imagine perhaps that some of the structures lie in ruins others are gone.
OK?
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Cool, thanks.
I'm going to rule that the catacombs in particular has a slightly increased opening, so we can get all our men inside, but still have tight spaces deeper in, so we can make it hell for the evil ones following us. :)
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Ok, just recall that it was built for 30 feet tall giants, so it's not THAT narrow
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Ok, just recall that it was built for 30 feet tall giants, so it's not THAT narrow
Right now everything beats being surrounded. :)
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The Pontiff will throw a rock at something ancient at the "right" moment thus honouring the Governors gut ;D
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Gaerred goes along but is not the least bit sneaky.
"Goes along?" BUt why? Making all that noise on purpose he can become our needed decoy down here. A small push towards the 500 soldiers and whispering the word in his ear "decoy" :P
Oh and here I thought it was on purpose. Shame on me :-[
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...and then his enemies turn to nothing. Same with the Pontiff of All Anuire - he is positively radiating divine wrath and is poised to snap at any moment.
...the wind: "Fools. I have not your book..."
As I understand it the Pontiff is gone. Is this the way the rest of you understand it as well?
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...and then his enemies turn to nothing. Same with the Pontiff of All Anuire - he is positively radiating divine wrath and is poised to snap at any moment.
...the wind: "Fools. I have not your book..."
As I understand it the Pontiff is gone. Is this the way the rest of you understand it as well?
No, I think you were ready, ready like the old Marshal, to fight to the death.
You are with us still.
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I dont really feel I am in the mood for posting anything in the adventure thread. Untill I modify this post or Bjørn declares otherwise Niels are free to post actions for IHH's Characters and units if he want to. I trust you not to abuse it Niels and promise to bitch and whine only to people not playing in RoE should I later come to regrett giving permission.
Good luck :)
Edit: It seems IHH's actions is not worse by any mean from having Niels in controll as the puppet master but never the less I hereby take back the remote control from Niels. Niels you did well and I thank you for not getting any of my precious killed :)
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Lannelah steps forward.
"I am immortal golem. Would you let me pass?"
IMO elves lose their immortality in SW - or am I wrong?
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...and then his enemies turn to nothing. Same with the Pontiff of All Anuire - he is positively radiating divine wrath and is poised to snap at any moment.
...the wind: "Fools. I have not your book..."
As I understand it the Pontiff is gone. Is this the way the rest of you understand it as well?
Same with the Pontiff of All Anuire - he is positively radiating divine wrath and is poised to snap at any moment.
The Pontiff DID NOT disappear along with the illusions. Come on...
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The pontiff went on an inner journey in his own mind repeating the mantra as right before the steward in the hall got killed. So I guess effectively he DID disapear ;D
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The pontiff went on an inner journey in his own mind repeating the mantra as right before the steward in the hall got killed. So I guess effectively he DID disapear ;D
So the Pontiff used his powers of faith to disappear into his own bubble dimension...interesting :P
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Thanks for looking after Edwin while my internet was spotty (well, it still is) - I can just about handle emails on the blackberry but not the forum.
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Thanks for looking after Edwin while my internet was spotty (well, it still is) - I can just about handle emails on the blackberry but not the forum.
Have you tried WAP?
http://twilightpeaks.net/forum/index.php?wap2
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Bjorn, my understanding of these computer thingies is very limited. When I read 'WAP' in the title of your post I thought you'd clobbered someone for something. I felt good that I'd remembered that the firm blackberry can access my emails...
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Bjorn, my understanding of these computer thingies is very limited. When I read 'WAP' in the title of your post I thought you'd clobbered someone for something. I felt good that I'd remembered that the firm blackberry can access my emails...
Poor man.
Install a decent browser on the Blackberry - Opera Mobile for example. You get it right of the net and it installs with hardly a click. Remembers you usernames and passwords.
The WAP on the forum.
It's not pretty, but its extremely fast.
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It is one of the few times in life that fast is actually good :)
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The firm refuses to allow anyone to instal anything on the blackberries, when we first got them they barely worked for 6 months until IT figured out that they had all got the wrong package installed. I'll try to remember the WAP, although my posts will still probably look terrible.
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You are doing great so far! :)
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I finally manage to catch up on this adventure, just to find Drago feeling poorly :'(
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I finally manage to catch up on this adventure, just to find Drago feeling poorly :'(
His sister isn't having fun either, she's lost her best toy and her hubby in one season (well, the golem might be salvageable). This season has been something of a bloodbath in regent/looey terms, and the blood is only starting to flow from the way Ilien, the Grey Hills and other places are are going...
Sweep-stake on # of survivors anyone?
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I finally manage to catch up on this adventure, just to find Drago feeling poorly :'(
Not only did he die heroically saving the IHH templars from destruction, he also had a paladin of Avani abandon her post and run across the battlefield to save him. She must have been in love for her to have kept so close a watch on him in the middle of a battle. Then she used all her healing juice, in vain, then dragged his dead body to safety. The out of grief (surely) she fled into the tomb of the giants and shut herself in with his body, alone for eternity...
That's how bards are gonna tell it anyway!
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Good to see you around though Even. I cannot wait for Leman States' reaction when the Swordmage drags the corpse of Drago before him and demands that he be resurrected. Fun times, though it remains to be seen exactly how it will go down.
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More like Dead, Even.
D-E-A-D. Dead.
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I finally manage to catch up on this adventure, just to find Drago feeling poorly :'(
Not only did he die heroically saving the IHH templars from destruction, he also had a paladin of Avani abandon her post and run across the battlefield to save him. She must have been in love for her to have kept so close a watch on him in the middle of a battle. Then she used all her healing juice, in vain, then dragged his dead body to safety. The out of grief (surely) she fled into the tomb of the giants and shut herself in with his body, alone for eternity...
That's how bards are gonna tell it anyway!
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The brave crusaders are in a very bad place - they are being crushed from two sides. There is nothing the topside detachment can do to alter that fact. They can help out a bit...but that's it. Meanwhile the Ogre has felled Drago Tanar - so there ARE limits to his prowess. He is saved, however, by the timely charge of Saraen Bellamie and his hand-picked veterans. They manage to seize Drago and drag him back to the lines. Dead or alive - no-one knows. For his troubles Saraen is beheaded by a two-handed blow from the Ogre
And here I thought Archbishop Bellamie gave his life attempting to save Drago and yet it the the kissing paladin that get all the credits :o
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Well, Rashida deserves it.
Once she gets herself dug out of the dirtpile...
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Bards Kasper, bards...you can trust them only to twist the truth :P
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Besides, the paladin is waaaay cuter than the archbishop ;D
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Exotic Eastern beauty meets enigmatic northern warrior...better than old geezer meets...
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Exotic Eastern beauty meets enigmatic northern warrior...better than old geezer meets...
Hey, I can't believe the willingness of people to make of fun of geriatric love.
We all get there...in time.
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Exotic Eastern beauty meets enigmatic northern warrior...better than old geezer meets...
BUt since the Archbishop is dead anyway let it rest
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I intend to do some more IC stuff before leaving the crypt if allowed but I really prefer to wait for Andy to post something before I post anymore spam ;)
Just fluff stuff mind you so the outcome will, as far as I am concerned not change anything.
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More like Dead, Even.
D-E-A-D. Dead.
I prefer to remain optimistic. It's just the gloom of the Shadow world bringing despair to your mind. A trick of the low light making his skin look sallow...
Drago will rise again!
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More like Dead, Even.
D-E-A-D. Dead.
I prefer to remain optimistic. It's just the gloom of the Shadow world bringing despair to your mind. A trick of the low light making his skin look sallow...
Drago will rise again!
To be fair, being dead and rising again are not neccesarily mutually exclusive.
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"Elamien! You are in pain! - Please, can someone heal my wife?" Rashid seems way more concerned than the immediate injury would seem to warrant.
I intend to act upon it but I've put my actions on freze untill Andy post (or he fails to and I loose patience)
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sorry for the delay, I didn't get back from work until gone 22:00.
Posted now, don't worry about Edwin, he'll be fine, at least until he gets peckish, somehow I don't think cocoa or mulled mead is going to do it for him anymore :'(.
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sorry for the delay, I didn't get back from work until gone 22:00.
Posted now, don't worry about Edwin, he'll be fine, at least until he gets peckish, somehow I don't think cocoa or mulled mead is going to do it for him anymore :'(.
That was an awesome farewell post Andy!
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Thanks, my original one was deeply corny and I'm glad I didn't get on the net in time yesterday to post it before it became obsolete.
Hopefully Walac doesn't mind getting a lecture from an old man wanting to pass on one last peace of wisdom to a promising youth.
btw, I suggest that if Rashid comes back for the books / tapestries / carpets / etc that he comes armed. Marshal Riordian can suggest some replacements if he's in the mood to redecorate for Edwin and she could do with something to keep her busy and not mourning over her family.
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sorry for the delay, I didn't get back from work until gone 22:00.
Posted now, don't worry about Edwin, he'll be fine, at least until he gets peckish, somehow I don't think cocoa or mulled mead is going to do it for him anymore :'(.
It was worth waiting for :)
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Hopefully Walac doesn't mind getting a lecture from an old man wanting to pass on one last peace of wisdom to a promising youth.
To the contrary. It humbles Wallac in a, as I perceive it, good way :)
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Ahum, Gaerred takes upon himself to cherrypick the property of the Patriarch before the Patriarch has a chance to go look for books himself?
There will be a post later. There will indeed.
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Glad you liked it, but it needed you guys to set it up, and I was worried it would go corny anyway. But Edwin hadn't got much action in the Aegis so far so I thought I should spend some time on his farewell, glad it turned out well.