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TP.net => The Great Beyond (OOC) => : X-Tornilen/SM (Alexander) June 06, 2009, 11:05:45 PM
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OOC: We have a small problem - Matt is away for the weekend, LARPing. So he can't really do anything, sadly. So, if we want to keep going, I suggest that Duke Hiriele agrees with everything I suggests, unless you guys think I am making him do something he would not do. I'll try not to make those kind of suggestions, but they might slip by me - there, I rely on you :) Essentially, until Matt returns, I would be describing what both the Duke and I do, subject to DM's veto.
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Ooc: unless he agrees with it or gives his consent, such things usually falls to the dm's. This is to avoid godmodding (and players getting pissed at you for sacrificing their units or assets... "of course he'll send his troops into a death trap..." :) ). I'd suggest suggesting stuff as normal and if it goes against Matt's domains wishes, Jon will have Matt's char or an aa disagree...
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OOC: I completely agree, "Godmoding" can very easily turn into BadWrongFun. In this case, we are in a situation where the narrative cannot continue without input from Matt (unless Jon advances it to "and then Duke Hiriele died" :P). Anyway, the point is close to moot, as Matt will likely check the forum upon returning tonight or at least tomorrow afternoon.
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Am back and will be posting in a little while once I have gotten through the deluge of emails and forum posts.
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The brigands does not apear to be too eager to take the bait. I would begin to worry soon if I where the two of you ::)
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Eh, I am not that worried. If we have the full army gathered, then we should win whether they attack us after night falls or not. If we are still split up when night falls, we have a problem. We'll see, this is interesting. And we will hurry things up a bit :P
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This is important: How close to the Elinie border are we? I need to know if I should send a dispatch to the Patriarch and warn him about brigands coming up for air inside his borders.
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... why is every shitstorm in the world heading my way? ;D
I dread the impact.
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Cos riding into Elinie at the head of my small army is bound to go SO well....
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... why is every shitstorm in the world heading my way? ;D
Because you let a antique vampire regain his strength unchallenged, corrupt the head of your local church and steal the Book of Law? Clearly Avani is testing you. Alternatively they may be trying to rejoin their allies in the Sutren Hills... the Aegis will happily investigate if given the relevant 'kill scum on sight' permission...
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... why is every shitstorm in the world heading my way? ;D
I dread the impact.
Because it is actually heading my way, I just do not know it yet :o
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Wohoo Ghieste invades!
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... why is every shitstorm in the world heading my way? ;D
I dread the impact.
Don't worry, I feel somewhat certain that even though Brandon Boer is closer to your borders than he was the last time he appeared, he is not gunning for Elenie... :D
(On the other hand, these battles in the west may all be a clever ploy to distract us from his impending invasion of your lands... Hmmm ???)
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I love Brandon Boer. He has been promoted to my new favorite NPC.
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I love Brandon Boer. He has been promoted to my new favorite NPC.
Oh yes, Boer is the new black... He's all the craze and the talk of every party in the west... war-party that is.
Brandon is an awesome dude, no doubt... I'd praise him more, if it weren't for the fact that I sincerely hope he stumbles and falls down the stairs while shaving, accidentally stabing himself repeatedly in his stomach with a broadsword. No routing for the other side! ;)
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Who says Alan is rooting for the other side?
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No routing for the other side! ;)
Are you kidding me- the longer Avan stays at war with Boer the longer I don't have to worry about my comeuppance.
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See Marks comment. :)
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Jon,
FYI -- By War Move 6-8 things are pretty crazy in Osoerde. I think the entire realm has armies activated...
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Jon,
FYI -- By War Move 6-8 things are pretty crazy in Osoerde. I think the entire realm has armies activated...
Thanks, I know ;)
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I have scouts deployed in all southern provinces, on active recon, and two units of fast cavalry roaming... I have received no news of any brigands, vampires, book thieves or otherwise crossing Elinie.
Either they are using the shadow realms or they are not here. (Well, or my men search like idiots)
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Wouldn't that be just the perfect end to this turn? Ghieste and the SM are assaulted by Osoerdean troops convinced they stole the Book of Laws. Hilarity ensues.
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Matt & Alexander, FYI this campaign will end, one way or the other by sunday at the very latest. I'll have alot of time tonight, little time tomorrow and saturday, and some more time sunday. So please get those decisions rolling quickly. You're both able to make decisions for the entire campaign, so please do so and don't worry about who commands what.
Speed is of the essence here!
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Regulars and xbows in 1 square, archers behind them.
Fire at will.
Armsmen to join from the flank, cavalry to mow down their rear to cut off escape, then circle back and finish the melee.
Thats what I'd do anyway. ::)
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As far as I understand we are not using the battlemagic rules (0th level realm spells), if we are using those, she will not attach herself to the archers but instead bombard the enemy. Otherwise, just stick with the archers and fling lightning bolts and fireballs.
What is the difference between 'bombard the enemy' and 'fling lightning bolts'? Just use some good descriptions of how you are using your magic powers.
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Hmmm, back to the grinder. And if they had just surrendered I would not have had to murd.... sorry, EXECUTE all their mates....
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I'm out for the day. Be back tomorrow to finish this.
Read up on field fortifications, p. 180
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Have done....
In order to build a fortification significant enough to qualify for a field fortification bonus, an army must occupy the province for four war moves (1 action round).
Movement: No effect.
Combat: Units cannot charge into fortified areas.
Units defending a field fortification square get a +1 fortification bonus to Defense. Units in the fortification square get a +2 morale bonus to all Morale checks.
That the right bit?
And will be here all day tomorrow, though my family are over for my birthday lunch...
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Happy Birthday Matt and good luck crushing the bandits to both you and Alexander; let them face rigtheous judgement ::)
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I'm not sure the HOT does righteous judgement. I think we'll just go for "Matt's judgement" and be done. Leaves a lot more room for him to work in. :)
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That was more or less what I tried to imply with the " ::)"
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As far as I understand we are not using the battlemagic rules (0th level realm spells), if we are using those, she will not attach herself to the archers but instead bombard the enemy. Otherwise, just stick with the archers and fling lightning bolts and fireballs.
What is the difference between 'bombard the enemy' and 'fling lightning bolts'? Just use some good descriptions of how you are using your magic powers.
There is a big difference between sticking with the archers - casting fireballs and lightning bolts; and not joining a unit and instead casting level 0 battlespells, which is what the question was about. One option provides a unit with +2 attack, morale and +1 defence. The other option does not boost any unit, but instead maximises destruction. I wanted to know if I had the option of maximizing destruction :)
The truth is somewhere in between, as far as I understood Jon. Apparantly a caster can attatch herself to a unit and also do additional damage through her spellcasting - doing a few hits here and there. Not what is in the guide, but a good middle route I think. I dunno if this is a general rule or just what's being used for this war move until the Regent Guide is finished on the subject.
I'll admit that my descriptions aren't very colorful at the moment, that is on purpose though. I want to get my posts up asap, as we need to finish this... in 22 hours. Colorful takes more time for me to write, so right now expedience takes priority.
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You'll have to choose either one or the other. Joining a unit takes all your attention, whilst casting battle spells does the same.
You can attach and detach yourself to a unit each battle round however, but once attached, you can't cast spells.
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I'm not sure the HOT does righteous judgement. I think we'll just go for "Matt's judgement" and be done. Leaves a lot more room for him to work in. :)
I am very sure that in Ghorien's opinion his "judgement" is entirely "righteous" - how others would view it though is an entirely a different matter...
And yes Bobby, that does leave Ghorien a lot more room to work with ;D
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Ah, I misunderstood you then. Consider the swordmage detatched from the unit then :)
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Ah, I misunderstood you then. Consider the swordmage detatched from the unit then :)
You're obviously still allowed to cast your spells from the protection of a unit.
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On hearing of the giant figure they are to face the Duke has also made sure of the deployment of lassos and nets within his ranks to allow for the taking of the "invincible" figure without having to pernetrate his hide.
Interesting... I hope your troops are better with a lasso, than I am. ;)
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As I understand it, you're taking the Battle of the Barisen Hill to a new level, by doing it on a smaller scale, but just to add to the flavour, the enemy now has a fortified position on top of the hill?...
It takes some cajones, I'll give you that :P
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Not quite. I would have not considered the troops we are against anything like as heavy as the Boer's army and the posiiton itself is a settlement in a valley with some ditchs and banks rather than a nasty hill.
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Not quite. I would have not considered the troops we are against anything like as heavy as the Boer's army and the posiiton itself is a settlement in a valley with some ditchs and banks rather than a nasty hill.
Not a hilltop certainly. But on the slopes of one of the hillsides.
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Actually, I think taking a hill is easier, than taking a fortified position (sloped or not).
Fighting against a defended position isn't all that good... not only will you be denied the ability to charge, but while you try to engage the enemy, they will get free AoA against you (and I noticed that the enemy seemed to have quite an amount of ranged capabilities. ;))
The thing you have in your favour are armoured troops and the swordmage. And it seems one of those just got cancelled. ;D
Anticipating your next move! :D
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Always amused me about that in wargames and thh such like - the charge is so often seen as a deciding piece and heavily favoured by rules. Having fought a lot in live action, with battles of 1500 a side or so, it has always struck me that the charge for non mounted troops is no where near as important as the "push". The problem with the charge in infantry types is holding the formation and so often the formation and holding the line is the deciding factor. I have folded entire flanks back on my centre (yes I have commanded a number of these field engagments personally) in order to over extend and thin an enemies ranks before counterattacking with my now cohesive block... :)
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It's funny... I've tried something similar, and always found morale to be the determening thing (although this may come form the "troops" being normal humans with little training). I agree, foot-troops charging is not that conflict-winning... the thunderous hooves of dozens of cavalry a completely different thing.
Yeah, the push is determining, but a well placed flank-charge (with lots of noise to follow) can break the enemies ranks more easily... that, the death of the leader or removal of standards (as they resemble more than just pieces of cloth to many people in the conflict).
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I must just inspire excellent morale (or fear) in my troops - I have never lost a command on the field, when playing as a PC or as an NPC.
That or just lucky! ;D
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Oh bugger! It's stonebutt!
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Well, things are wrapping up. Thanks for running this Jon, I am really impressed by this. I never expected this part of my turn to be so exciting, these last few hours have been nerve-wracking.
Now, on to the looting! ;)
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Cheers guys, my pleasure. It was a load of fun over here as well. You probably shouldn't expect future military campaigns to be as detailed as this, but maybe a few.
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Hmm, well it appears that the duke has some more cannon fodder for the Boeruine war, the Prince will be happy - put them in front of some pike so they don't run backwards...
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According to some bards that won't work, because the pikes always break and run...especially Ilienese pikes...