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: Hired Help: What classes are "Elite"
: X-Endier & KoH/GdN (Joe) November 25, 2008, 07:05:17 PM
Is a "Noble" considered an "elite" class for the purposes of the "Hire Help" action?

Is "Aristocrat" still a class, or is that taken over by noble.

Also,
Skills, feats, gear, etc.
Do these items matter?

If so, will the Dungeon-Masters specify these items or will we be able to define them for ourselves.
: Re: Hired Help: What classes are "Elite"
: X-Osoerde (Alan) November 25, 2008, 10:06:36 PM
Elite:

PC classes, including the Noble, Guilder (a variant on the Rogue, I believe), Knight (Fighter variant), etc.

The non-elite classes are the NPC classes:

Adept
Warrior
Expert
Aristocrat
etc.
: Re: Hired Help: What classes are "Elite"
: DM B November 25, 2008, 10:23:11 PM
Is a "Noble" considered an "elite" class for the purposes of the "Hire Help" action?

Is "Aristocrat" still a class, or is that taken over by noble.

Also,
Skills, feats, gear, etc.
Do these items matter?

If so, will the Dungeon-Masters specify these items or will we be able to define them for ourselves.

Noble is an elite class. Aristocrat is a professional/NPC class.

You're free to flesh out your regent and/or any able assistance.
: Re: Hired Help: What classes are "Elite"
: X-Endier & KoH/GdN (Joe) November 26, 2008, 02:27:59 PM
Will it ever matter if I choose say, Skill Focus: Diplomacy over Weapon Focus: Longsword, or are those items just "fluff" that assist in roleplaying.
: Re: Hired Help: What classes are "Elite"
: DM B November 26, 2008, 02:39:07 PM
Fluff mostly; but if I see an admin type regent he'll score slightly better on administration, while a battle-focused one might be a little better at combat.
: Re: Hired Help: What classes are "Elite"
: X-Endier & KoH/GdN (Joe) December 11, 2008, 09:00:11 PM
Let's say I want to get a hired help Knight 5 (or fighter 4/Noble1, not picky) and I specify I'm hiring him out of my Legendary Knight's unit.  Would it still be DC20, and thus cost 1GB/20rp to hire 1 guy I am already paying, or does having him sort of around already help?  Could you do the same type of thing from your bodyguard unit? Grab a guy from there to make a hired help, and is the DC less if there is an existing relationship?
: Re: Hired Help: What classes are "Elite"
: X-IHH/Wallac Isilviere (Kasper) December 18, 2008, 05:22:28 PM
I am having similar thoughts - anyone that can answer this one?

Furthermore page page 30 of says:
"Leadership: All regents get Leadership as a virtual feat (including regents with only source holdings), regardless of whether they meet the prerequisites or not. If a regent already has the Leadership feat, he gains a +2 bonus to his leadership score. Note that the other limits of the feat still applies, so that a 1st level regent can’t actually have any cohorts since they must be of lower level than him. For additional details, see the Leadership feat description in Chapter 10: Characters and Domains."

However Chapter 10 does not have that information. Where can I find it or can someone supply the information please?
: Re: Hired Help: What classes are "Elite"
: DM B December 18, 2008, 05:42:47 PM
The NPC is coming from somewhere - if you specify in his description that he's from your elite unit, that's nice and might earn you a bonus on the DAC.
: Re: Hired Help: What classes are "Elite"
: X-IHH/Wallac Isilviere (Kasper) December 18, 2008, 05:54:39 PM
Eh.. finished my above modification after you answered the first question - can you perhaps delve into the other matter about Leadership as well pretty please  ::)
: Re: Hired Help: What classes are "Elite"
: X-Ghieste & HOT/GH (Matt) December 18, 2008, 06:14:38 PM
Why does it feel like this might be a busy area in the first turn or two?  ;)
: Re: Hired Help: What classes are "Elite"
: X-Roesone/ARR (Robert) December 18, 2008, 07:04:00 PM
I think that the leadership feat refers to D&D created characters which were an option in RoE I but aren't so relevant now... or I could be wrong :)