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TP.net => The Great Beyond (OOC) => : X-Elinie/RiD (Niels) February 12, 2009, 09:30:43 AM
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What I have is v2; that should be the latest version.
Hmm, that version I don't have... It should be in the download section.
Jon, my detect-"DM Bjørn is messing with your head"-meter is going crazy... I think he is jerking your chain. ;D
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What an image... The Green Knight jerking the dragon's chain.
If only you were correct, unfortunately I do believe it's the case. Fun way of finding out though ;D
Your DO's will return in three versions, draft 3, v1 and v2. Then we will really have a fun game ::)
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Hehe.
Darn, there was a v2!
Hope its not too different that v1.
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it was a bit better, i got more income =)
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Minor income changes, not that big a deal. If I do it right the first time, I expect it'll be a lot smoother sailing for the future DO's.
Anyway, the first seven are finished (they need an income change, but otherwise good). That leaves about 2/3s of the DO's for today and tomorrow, should be doable.
Then there's the P&H to finish, Brandon has volunteered to check it for errors. And the SR which is always a hurdle to cross.
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If Brandon is checking it make sure he contacts me FIRST!!! I've been going through it and altering prosperity, random income rolls, stability and various minor/NPC actions.
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Right. You've been contacted via e-mail last night and earlier today on the P&H. I expected that you'd object if I shouldn't send it to him.
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Bjørn you say minor stuff. ("It includes some minor omissions; like an EOM temple holding that had gone AWOL.")
Comparing the two versions I note that Osoerde is changed; Bhalaene is no longer province level 7 but 8 and MOC have Law holdings no longer at 3 but at 4. Income changed some etc.
Both changes been highlighted with green and yellow. Is that to show the difference between v1 and v2 or because the change is not permanent?
While I am at it the cell AD42 in Heartlands calculating MOC's total upkeep is not working. If you insert the below value in Heartland cell AD42 it works.
=MIERES!B72+ROESONE!B52+'GHIESTE (GHOERE)'!B21+'TORNILEN (GHOERE)'!B20+ANUIRE!B19+TUORNEN!B54+ALAMIE!B66+MHORIED!B66+OSOERDE!B72+MARKAZOR!B50
it should work including when MOC upgrade their holdings in Markazor if ever
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Sounds good to me. More money for the righteous.
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Yes thats true. I believe Osoerde is happy as well :-)
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Bjørn you say minor stuff. ("It includes some minor omissions; like an EOM temple holding that had gone AWOL.")
Comparing the two versions I note that Osoerde is changed; Bhalaene is no longer province level 7 but 8 and MOC have Law holdings no longer at 3 but at 4. Income changed some etc.
Both changes been highlighted with green and yellow. Is that to show the difference between v1 and v2 or because the change is not permanent?
While I am at it the cell AD42 in Heartlands calculating MOC's total upkeep is not working. If you insert the below value in Heartland cell AD42 it works.
=MIERES!B72+ROESONE!B52+'GHIESTE (GHOERE)'!B21+'TORNILEN (GHOERE)'!B20+ANUIRE!B19+TUORNEN!B54+ALAMIE!B66+MHORIED!B66+OSOERDE!B72+MARKAZOR!B50
it should work including when MOC upgrade their holdings in Markazor if ever
Nice job, I've forwarded it to Brandon. If you come across any more like this, let us know.
The green celled province usually means that a province or holding has been blessed. See the "color codes" overview at the back of the excell file.
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2 of 3 provinces in Tornilen have also grow one level. Both have the same light shade of green as the province Osoerde that greew from 7 to 8.
The color does not match any of the color codes shown in P & H. Perhaps the province increase is a mistakes.
The cell right above the MOC is suffering an error as well.
This one should fix HA's upkeep calculation. I've checked manually as well btw.
Cell AD41
='GHIESTE (GHOERE)'!B22+'TORNILEN (GHOERE)'!B21+MHORIED!B65+OSOERDE!B74+MARKAZOR!B48+ELINIE!B49+COERANYS!B49
Will have to be modified should HA get holdings in new provinces but this one cover all where they allready got stuff
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Hmm, I'm sad enough that I cut all my actual/target provinces into a separate sheet that I could sort as I wanted, so I didn't realise it was the original formula that was bust for HA- I had to fix them all in passing.
I'll try and advise on any issues I come across in v2 upgraded to turn 62, I last saw 1.1...
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2 of 3 provinces in Tornilen have also grow one level. Both have the same light shade of green as the province Osoerde that greew from 7 to 8.
The color does not match any of the color codes shown in P & H. Perhaps the province increase is a mistakes.
OoC:
Unless some thing changes, in Turn #62 Bhalaene will be a province (7); Tornilen, a province (5); Thoralinar, a province (4).
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Meaning they are not level 5, 6 & 8 provinces and its an error?
What about the increase of MOC's lawholding from 3 (in v1) to 4 (in v2)?
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Those may have been due to Bless spells from the MOC.
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Those may have been due to Bless spells from the MOC.
Not unlikely but if its the case their color code does not match the one supposedly used for blessings (or any other spell for that matter)
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Light green is a blessed province; it adds one to province lvl
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Yes that much I've gathered.
Being anal I must point out the color used for those provinces do not match the color-code presented in the P & H.
I perceive your reference to light-greena equal blessed provincecolor as a "Yes those 3 provinces is simply blessed"
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Actually increasing the province level the only way that the P&H spreadsheet can easily calculate the correct income, just don't try to rule a holding into the 'empty slot'. ;D
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I got humiliated last game when I thought a whole horde of temple holdings had been hammered down in my kingdom. Turned out they'd just stopped blessing them. I looked vaguely foolish to the guy I was talking with at the time.
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I got humiliated last game when I thought a whole horde of temple holdings had been hammered down in my kingdom. Turned out they'd just stopped blessing them. I looked vaguely foolish to the guy I was talking with at the time.
That was the classic newbie mistake last time - I think we had like only one new player that didn't start drooling over all the vacant holding slots that everyone but him had not discovered ;D
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I got humiliated last game when I thought a whole horde of temple holdings had been hammered down in my kingdom. Turned out they'd just stopped blessing them. I looked vaguely foolish to the guy I was talking with at the time.
That was the classic newbie mistake last time - I think we had like only one new player that didn't start drooling over all the vacant holding slots that everyone but him had not discovered ;D
Yep, me too! I took over my realm late in RoE1, and when I read the P&H I thought I hit the jackpot... I had 2 holdings (law & manor) in my capital that could be ruled up! 8) Woo hoo! :o I felt like the mouse that found a big wheel of stinky cheese! :D Until it was pointed out to me that the province was only that high of a level due to being "blessed"... :'(
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If it upsets you ruler chaps us priests can stop, unless we hold law as well as temple holdings the spell costs us more than it brings in - and the action of course!
Pity the poor mad fool who drools over his celestially blessed realm with 2 empty holdings...
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If it upsets you ruler chaps us priests can stop, unless we hold law as well as temple holdings the spell costs us more than it brings in - and the action of course!
Pity the poor mad fool who drools over his celestially blessed realm with 2 empty holdings...
That is so true though some rulers believe the meager income from temples should be spent for blessing the people of the realm ::)
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That is so true though some rulers believe the meager income from temples should be spent for blessing the people of the realm ::)
Indeed, sadly the old lineages weaken and madness becomes crowned as wisdom amongst those not rapt in the embrace of the divine. ;)
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Hey guys, you are turning corporatists. Beware, goals for temples is not wealth gathering, but free and willing proping up of the feodal society :)
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Hey guys, you are turning corporatists. Beware, goals for temples is not wealth gathering, but free and willing leaning of the feodal society :)
I'm sure they will need every penny for their "just" and "righteous" wars... ::)
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Or for famine relieve.
Anyway most things cost money so even temples need to make sure things balance in long run or they will be in real troubles - like everyone else going bankrupcy.