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RoE General => The Herald (DM announcements) => : DM B March 02, 2009, 11:41:07 AM
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The P&H has been uploaded;
any comments/questions should go into this thread.
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The lack of variable income rolls is INTENTIONAL, so don't ask ;D
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CoT tithes?
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Jon? You have the tithe figures handy, or should I quickly calculate them? As we talked about - every temple paid what it was supposed to (no war tithes through).
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To all players:
Look over the P&H and make sure that all incoming/outgoing GRANTS have made it.
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The same for actions like FINANCES.
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Jon? You have the tithe figures handy, or should I quickly calculate them? As we talked about - every temple paid what it was supposed to (no war tithes through).
Already answered by own question in the Conclave section :)
That leaves the question; have any PC temples by mistake or on purpose, not paid their tithe? If so, let me know ASAP.
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Note to self: Add 24GB tribuet to KoH (from Conclave) & 40GB to Conclave (new entry under Heartlands/temples)
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I have a Rule Law in Elinie, Soileite, that was succesful, but is not reflected in the P&H v6. It should be RiD Law 2 now... :)
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Hope's Demise have a note attached in their Prosperity Column of the P&H, it says "-1 Event, Dragon in Swamp", but it said this last turn too.
In addition, I had a succesful action to establish contact to the dragons emissaries... Which should be an attempt to alleviate the situation.
I think the -1 should be deleted, as you have not actually dropped Prosperity down from Guarded and taxation is a Heavy, so if the event was still active, the prosperity would drop.
Should there be a comment about the dragon's emissaries in the Status Report?
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It means that as long as the "Dragon in the swamp" isn't dealt with, a -1 prosperity will affect the province. Prosperity is calculated due to a wide variety of factors, taxes, blessing, law control, random events.
The modifier signifies that the people are scared out of their minds, some are leaving the province, others are spending their hard-worked for resources to arm themselves, leading to lower taxes collected. Etc. etc.
Deal with the dragon somehow and the modifier will go away. You'll be getting an updated secrets document by the way.
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Other notes on Elinie:
Hope's Demise, Tax is at Heavy and not all Law is owned. Prosperity should drop from Guarded to Unsteady, unless my vassal have agitated or something. (I told the fool to lower taxes, tsk tsk)
Chalsedon, Tax is at Heavy, all law is controlled, but province is not blessed as it was last turn, but prosperity is unchanged at Average. Either there is a mistake or al-Rasshad have agitated.
Osoeriene, Tax is Heavy, not all law is controlled, prosperity should drop to Unsteady - Unless the vassal have agitated.
Sendouras, Tax is Heavy, not all law is controlled thats a -1 Prosperity, but the province has been blessed, so thats a +1 prosperity. Province should be at Guarded (colored green), but its at Average (no color) - So again, vassal has agitated or there is a mistake, well the missing bless color is a mistake at minimum.
Soileite, Tax is Heavy (sigh), not all law was controlled last turn so -1 prosperity, but the province is now blessed so +1 prosperity... Everything looks correct here, so now I ask, is there an agitate action missing? ::)
And on an IC note: "Rashid read the report one more time, not one of his vassals had taken action to protect the prosperity of the realm. Not one had heeded his orders that they lower their taxes. Instead they had performed expensive tricks of popularity that would only last in the here and now.
Disgusted, Rashid crumbled the piece of paper and tossed it toward the waste bucket. He missed."
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It means that as long as the "Dragon in the swamp" isn't dealt with, a -1 prosperity will affect the province. Prosperity is calculated due to a wide variety of factors, taxes, blessing, law control, random events.
The modifier signifies that the people are scared out of their minds, some are leaving the province, others are spending their hard-worked for resources to arm themselves, leading to lower taxes collected. Etc. etc.
Deal with the dragon somehow and the modifier will go away. You'll be getting an updated secrets document by the way.
Well, then the prosperity should be dropping... And it didn't. - And the Event should be clearly marked in the Secrets for last turn, which it was not... The dragon event began at turn 60,5 or even before. - Either the vassal is pumping agitate for all he is worth, or something is not right.
And the "hook" was that emissaries were there... Now I expect to see what they want. If there was meat on it, I would have liked to hear some kind of reply during the past season. Its not like the immediate solution to an ancient dragon in your swamp is to rush in to kill it... ;D
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Vassals will generally spend agitate actions to keep their provinces calm.
But keep these questions coming, it's always good to check up on the details.
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maybe a silly question
The column "Upkeep" represent how many GBs my domain has to pay in order to mantain his holdings, isn't it?
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maybe a silly question
The column "Upkeep" represent how many GBs my domain has to pay in order to mantain his holdings, isn't it?
OoC:
Are you referring to Column AD in the South Coast worksheet?
The number found in the EOM cell (of that column) is supposed to equal the total number of EOM holding levels (and province levels, were the EOM to control any). Take that number and refer to Table 4-6 in the Regent Guide, where you can find the appropriate and related maintenance cost.
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ok...thanks Brandon...
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The light blue stands for bless land or celestial boon? It used to be green for blessings and it still says so in the "color code" section.
Oh and.. who blessed Roesone. I'm pretty sure it was IHH but it doesn't say anything.
I'll get my comments on the DO by email this evening.
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Correct.
IHH blessed 4 provinces in Roesone & 4 provinces in Osoerde.
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Other notes on Elinie:
Hope's Demise, Tax is at Heavy and not all Law is owned. Prosperity should drop from Guarded to Unsteady, unless my vassal have agitated or something. (I told the fool to lower taxes, tsk tsk)
Chalsedon, Tax is at Heavy, all law is controlled, but province is not blessed as it was last turn, but prosperity is unchanged at Average. Either there is a mistake or al-Rasshad have agitated.
Osoeriene, Tax is Heavy, not all law is controlled, prosperity should drop to Unsteady - Unless the vassal have agitated.
Sendouras, Tax is Heavy, not all law is controlled thats a -1 Prosperity, but the province has been blessed, so thats a +1 prosperity. Province should be at Guarded (colored green), but its at Average (no color) - So again, vassal has agitated or there is a mistake, well the missing bless color is a mistake at minimum.
Soileite, Tax is Heavy (sigh), not all law was controlled last turn so -1 prosperity, but the province is now blessed so +1 prosperity... Everything looks correct here, so now I ask, is there an agitate action missing? ::)
And on an IC note: "Rashid read the report one more time, not one of his vassals had taken action to protect the prosperity of the realm. Not one had heeded his orders that they lower their taxes. Instead they had performed expensive tricks of popularity that would only last in the here and now.
Disgusted, Rashid crumbled the piece of paper and tossed it toward the waste bucket. He missed."
Law ignores negative prosperity events.
Therefore...
If a province is taxed at heavy and you control all law, then you suffer no prosperity loss. If you control more than half, then you suffer only a -1 penalty to prosperity. In my cursory look your prosperity looks normal, when taking vassal actions into account.
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Correct.
IHH blessed 4 provinces in Roesone & 4 provinces in Osoerde.
Will appear in v7 of the P&H
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Yes, Alan, I do agree, if the vassals did Agitate.
There is one more thing though, Sutren Hills seems to be missing the extra level of prosperity that I gave it with my own Agitate action.
Tax is/was moderate, law was sufficient, so neutral, then my Agitate +1, then bless +1, so it should be at Steady unless something else pulled the other way. - What say GM? :)
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Yes, Alan, I do agree, if the vassals did Agitate.
There is one more thing though, Sutren Hills seems to be missing the extra level of prosperity that I gave it with my own Agitate action.
Tax is/was moderate, law was sufficient, so neutral, then my Agitate +1, then bless +1, so it should be at Steady unless something else pulled the other way. - What say GM? :)
The goblin event; the one regarding trafficking with 'wild' goblins, is pulling down on prosperity.
Minor lord generally try to keep stability up with agitations.
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Roger, thats all of Elinie accounted for. Thanks! :)
Now to plot and scheme... ;)
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Other notes on Elinie:
Sendouras, Tax is Heavy, not all law is controlled thats a -1 Prosperity, but the province has been blessed, so thats a +1 prosperity. Province should be at Guarded (colored green), but its at Average (no color) - So again, vassal has agitated or there is a mistake, well the missing bless color is a mistake at minimum.
I blessed Sendouras, I meant to agitate it as well but messed up my DO and Jon switched the action to preserve my plans elsewhere. I still need to read through my DO properly so there might still be an agitate in there somewhere.
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V7 of the P&H has been uploaded; many errors corrected.
Also added additional Khinasi domains (special thanks to Brandon). Not finished yet, may appear in v8 (if there is one) or on a later turn. Province lvls should be more or less correct.
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IHH blessed 4 provinces in Roesone & 4 provinces in Osoerde.
:o Wallac is 15th level? Man, I thought Robbie was pretty good but he's not even close to that league...
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IHH blessed 4 provinces in Roesone & 4 provinces in Osoerde.
:o Wallac is 15th level? Man, I thought Robbie was pretty good but he's not even close to that league...
Or he is 7th level and cast the spell twice.
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Andy's explanation is more exiting...Even's more plausible ::)
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Andy's explanation is more exiting...Even's more plausible ::)
On a more serious note; you can always prepare a lower-level spell in a higher-level slot. So a hypothetical 7th lvl cleric with a hypothetical 7th lvl lt capable of realm magic could cast bless land up to 4 times per turn...4 provinces each, 16 provinces total.
Note that this wasn't quite so 'easy' in RoE I since you cold not prepare realm spells as a realm action (regent only)...so would quickly eat up all your actions on preparing said spells.
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Oh right, I'd thought you couldn't cast two spells of the same level full stop. I was wondering if somehow he had a looey who could cast realm spells...
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Andy's explanation is more exiting...Even's more plausible ::)
I like Andy's explanation the most ;D
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You are, after all, the PONTIFF OF ALL ANUIRE. You should automatically y be AT LEAST 15th lvl. Epic level would have been even better ::)
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If I had had Hubaere with the new rules, I could have had a lot of fun. :(
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You are, after all, the PONTIFF OF ALL ANUIRE. You should automatically y be AT LEAST 15th lvl. Epic level would have been even better ::)
At last someone that understands me fully - please repeat this in the CoT section. Preferably loud and clear font 30+ ::)