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: Domain wish list
: DM B September 12, 2008, 09:01:05 AM
Hi,

This is not a thread for domain application, but rather an informal one where you can talk about what domains you think look interresting. I'm hoping this will give me an idea as to what domains will be filled most easily.
: Re: Domain wish list
: X-Medoere & RCS/KE (Thorsten) September 12, 2008, 02:48:41 PM
I've been thinking a bit about it, and i think i wish to play RCS again.
I'll need to reinvent some of the stuff (as per your designers diary post), but i like the idea of beeing able to play the same character, but with 15 years between. Kaven is one of the few (i think?) who might actually still be in charge.
I imagine he'll have settled somewhat and might very well have children of his own by now. Uncle Altaweir will either be very old or very dead, so perhaps there's a new high-priest of the church as well?

- Thorsten

: Re: Domain wish list
: DM B September 12, 2008, 02:52:06 PM
Note: Only 2 years have passed since the end of RoE. 15 years is the time that has elapsed from the beginning of RoE...
: Re: Domain wish list
: X-IHH (Murphy) September 12, 2008, 06:08:11 PM
I'm interested particularly in Roesone, as well as in the Spider River Traders (who just so happen to be based in Roesone).  I like the idea of being stuck in the middle of several other powers that are all bigger, badder, and aggressive.
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: X-Roesone/ARR (Robert) September 12, 2008, 06:13:36 PM
Like Thorsten, I've been thinking about this a lot. There is a small background desire to play a landed regent this time, but I've done so much as HA and wouldn't easily give them up.

So, I'd like to continue as Robhan (and if possible continue with the Aegos story inlcuding the ehm... secret stuff, which was/is a lot of fun ;)) and civilize Markazor finally (hehe), unless there is a deficiency in realm players whereby I'd consider taking on a realm regent (Diemed, Ghieste and Osoerde all seem suitably intriguing, but it would be great if Brandon were back at the helm of Osoerde, of course). Under no circumstances would I play Elinie (one civil war was enough  ;D).
: Re: Domain wish list
: DM B September 12, 2008, 06:20:17 PM
I'm interested particularly in Roesone, as well as in the Spider River Traders (who just so happen to be based in Roesone).  I like the idea of being stuck in the middle of several other powers that are all bigger, badder, and aggressive.

Roesone is a very interesting choice. Medium powered realm, but smack in the middle of everything. Not only will you need alliances to stay alive... but you need to convince the major powers NOT to use you as their battleground...which has happened in the past and isn't very good for the realm.

SRT is a good guild. One province to rule as a vassal of Roesone, a stable and strong core area ruled by a fairly benign regent, and plenty of other guilds to compete with (PCE, SASI, BC and HOT in particular). Roesone is also bound to be in the middle of the action, so interesting things are bound to happen.
: Re: Domain wish list
: DM B September 12, 2008, 06:23:31 PM
I've been thinking a bit about it, and i think i wish to play RCS again.
I'll need to reinvent some of the stuff (as per your designers diary post), but i like the idea of beeing able to play the same character, but with 15 years between. Kaven is one of the few (i think?) who might actually still be in charge.
I imagine he'll have settled somewhat and might very well have children of his own by now. Uncle Altaweir will either be very old or very dead, so perhaps there's a new high-priest of the church as well?

- Thorsten

Medoere & RCS can have a lot of potential if played actively. But at the start it's sort of limited by being under a dual vassalage to Diemed and OIT, lacking a navy and having few borders with non-Dieman lands. There are two main paths - to try to break free from Diemed again (more difficult, but perhaps more rewarding) or stay loyal and try to gain as much power and wealth from that as possible (easier, but more limiting).
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: DM B September 12, 2008, 06:25:07 PM
Like Thorsten, I've been thinking about this a lot. There is a small background desire to play a landed regent this time, but I've done so much as HA and wouldn't easily give them up.

So, I'd like to continue as Robhan (and if possible continue with the Aegos story inlcuding the ehm... secret stuff, which was/is a lot of fun ;)) and civilize Markazor finally (hehe), unless there is a deficiency in realm players whereby I'd consider taking on a realm regent (Diemed, Ghieste and Osoerde all seem suitably intriguing, but it would be great if Brandon were back at the helm of Osoerde, of course). Under no circumstances would I play Elinie (one civil war was enough  ;D).

You suffered through a lot with the HA, so I understand if you want it again. It is certainly in a better position than when you left it. You also sum up several interesting things that you could be doing. Another option would be taking on Mhoried of course, since that gives you a realm AND lets you continue in the same area.
: Re: Domain wish list
: X-IHH (Murphy) September 12, 2008, 06:40:48 PM
Roesone is a very interesting choice. Medium powered realm, but smack in the middle of everything. Not only will you need alliances to stay alive... but you need to convince the major powers NOT to use you as their battleground...which has happened in the past and isn't very good for the realm.

SRT is a good guild. One province to rule as a vassal of Roesone, a stable and strong core area ruled by a fairly benign regent, and plenty of other guilds to compete with (PCE, SASI, BC and HOT in particular). Roesone is also bound to be in the middle of the action, so interesting things are bound to happen.

On the topic of alliances:  Are coalitions feasible in the current system, or will that mostly mean "pick the biggest gorilla I don't hate and stick with him"?  Have alliances hung together in the history of RoE I, or have they hanged separately?  The need for Roesone to have outside allies struck me as a cool, diplomacy driving impulse but scares me in equal measure if the mechanic for allies isn't solid.
: Re: Domain wish list
: X-Alamie (Alex) September 12, 2008, 06:44:11 PM
I will sneak in, considering that even non veteran players of ROE are entitled to give their two cents  :)

AS for me, I would be keen to wander in the area of Rohrmarch, which, not unlike Roesone, is a realm stuck in the middle of big baddies. With the obsidional syndrome being reinforced by the fact that the realm is fractured along the lines of a familial feud (well that said I do not know how would be Rohrmarch in ROE2).

This choice, while a bit away from Anuire mainstream, provides with an interesting cultural feature (Brecht but with a string blend of Anuriean feudalism predominating over the usual Brecht lands) and a land locked away from Brechtür and closer de facto to Anuire. It also provides the advantage of being more free from the legacy of past played domains.
: Re: Domain wish list
: X-Medoere & RCS/KE (Thorsten) September 12, 2008, 07:03:49 PM
Note: Only 2 years have passed since the end of RoE. 15 years is the time that has elapsed from the beginning of RoE...

If that is the case, i'd like to stick to Kaven.  :D
: Re: Domain wish list
: X-Roesone/ARR (Robert) September 12, 2008, 07:20:09 PM
I'm just a bit puzzled that the bastion of HA, the lands of Maricoere, have turned to MOC. Next thing they'll be having holdings in Tenarien, the spiritual homeland of the Aegis :D
: Re: Domain wish list
: DM B September 12, 2008, 07:21:39 PM
I'm just a bit puzzled that the bastion of HA, the lands of Maricoere, have turned to MOC. Next thing they'll be having holdings in Tenarien, the spiritual homeland of the Aegis :D

That's no longe the case. Maricoere lands are firmly HA.
: Re: Domain wish list
: DM B September 12, 2008, 07:23:49 PM
I will sneak in, considering that even non veteran players of ROE are entitled to give their two cents  :)

AS for me, I would be keen to wander in the area of Rohrmarch, which, not unlike Roesone, is a realm stuck in the middle of big baddies. With the obsidional syndrome being reinforced by the fact that the realm is fractured along the lines of a familial feud (well that said I do not know how would be Rohrmarch in ROE2).

This choice, while a bit away from Anuire mainstream, provides with an interesting cultural feature (Brecht but with a string blend of Anuriean feudalism predominating over the usual Brecht lands) and a land locked away from Brechtür and closer de facto to Anuire. It also provides the advantage of being more free from the legacy of past played domains.

Rohrmarch might not make the final cut. It depends on how many players we get. It has some unique issues - being located at the edge of the play area with mostly NPC realms around. The Swordhawk to the north and a new threat from the east. It will be interesting, but it breaks with the desire to see PC domains compacted. We'll see how it turns out.
: Re: Domain wish list
: X-Roesone/ARR (Robert) September 12, 2008, 07:32:33 PM
This might be more of a design question, than a wish list, but still :)

Will there be some possibilities for players to outline what their characters would have done in the two years that have passed?

For example, HA was seriously hampered by the three noble houses and their council and I couldn't even muster or move troops without asking for permission. One of the principal goals I had in mind for installing (supporting) the new regent of Mhoried was to have free hands when it comes to mustering and moving troops. This would have been one of the requirements for HA's support so that we don't have to apply for transit permits in triplicate whenever our knights need to go fight a goblin or respond to a threat :) I would think that Daeric Mhor probably wouldn't have objected to this in his times seeing that HA always supported him against Markazor. Its not that HA ha any intentions of overthrowing the dynasty, after all. (well, apart from my temporary stewardship project hehe)

Its minor details like this one that I have in mind, nothing gamebreaking (like: I mustered 4 knights and they've since all become legendary ;D)
: Re: Domain wish list
: DM B September 12, 2008, 07:35:31 PM
This might be more of a design question, than a wish list, but still :)

Will there be some possibilities for players to outline what their characters would have done in the two years that have passed?

For example, HA was seriously hampered by the three noble houses and their council and I couldn't even muster or move troops without asking for permission. One of the principal goals I had in mind for installing (supporting) the new regent of Mhoried was to have free hands when it comes to mustering and moving troops. This would have been one of the requirements for HA's support so that we don't have to apply for transit permits in triplicate whenever our knights need to go fight a goblin or respond to a threat :) I would think that Daeric Mhor probably wouldn't have objected to this in his times seeing that HA always supported him against Markazor. Its not that HA ha any intentions of overthrowing the dynasty, after all. (well, apart from my temporary stewardship project hehe)

Its minor details like this one that I have in mind, nothing gamebreaking (like: I mustered 4 knights and they've since all become legendary ;D)

You're free to offer input like this in the RoE II development section. I can't uarantee anything of course, since part of what I'm doing is making sure all domains have "interresting" starting positions  ;D
: Re: Domain wish list
: DM B September 12, 2008, 07:38:23 PM
Roesone is a very interesting choice. Medium powered realm, but smack in the middle of everything. Not only will you need alliances to stay alive... but you need to convince the major powers NOT to use you as their battleground...which has happened in the past and isn't very good for the realm.

SRT is a good guild. One province to rule as a vassal of Roesone, a stable and strong core area ruled by a fairly benign regent, and plenty of other guilds to compete with (PCE, SASI, BC and HOT in particular). Roesone is also bound to be in the middle of the action, so interesting things are bound to happen.

On the topic of alliances:  Are coalitions feasible in the current system, or will that mostly mean "pick the biggest gorilla I don't hate and stick with him"?  Have alliances hung together in the history of RoE I, or have they hanged separately?  The need for Roesone to have outside allies struck me as a cool, diplomacy driving impulse but scares me in equal measure if the mechanic for allies isn't solid.

There is no easy answer from this. Diplomacy in RoE is highly flexible and also limited by IC considerations and previous relations between domains. It simply since possibly for age-old enemies to become allies in a turn. And OOC allainces and cooperation are simply not allowed.

RoE I had a host of alliances, large and small, short-lived or enduring. The array was so bewildering and bedeviling that no one post can do them justice  :) :)
: Sword Mage
: Kurenai September 12, 2008, 11:18:27 PM
I've sent an e-mail to Bjorn with my heart's desire enclosed, I've always liked the sound kin sound of the Sword Mage if my concept would never be approved, ever.   :D

EDIT: Regien feels right I would also be willing to give him a try.
: Re: Domain wish list
: X-Bellam & BC/TB (Bobby) September 12, 2008, 11:32:27 PM
Is the regent of Ilien still a Mage?
: Re: Domain wish list
: DM B September 13, 2008, 08:12:29 AM
Is the regent of Ilien still a Mage?

Geraldine el-Mesir is most likely a rogue/wizard. But I'll have to go through the overall mage composition before making a final call.
: Re: Domain wish list
: potentialplayer September 13, 2008, 06:16:14 PM
OK then, here's my own particular wish list, in case anyone's interested.

1) Ilien / PCE / Geraldine el-Mesire
2) Impregnable Heart of Haelyn
3) Endier / Knights of Haelyn
4) "Three" Brother Mages
5) Elinie

I'd be more than willing to take on whatever suits the game best; these are just a few ideas. I'd be reluctant to play a really huge and powerful realm like Diemed or Osoerde though, what with being in another game as well. If I play something, I take it as seriously as I can, so I don't want to bite off more than I can chew.
: Re: Domain wish list
: X-Roesone/ARR (Robert) September 13, 2008, 06:47:13 PM
OK then, here's my own particular wish list, in case anyone's interested.

3) Endier / Knights of Haelyn


Not sure whether Bjorn agrees, but IMO, these guys are definitely a big organization. If I recall correctly, they had a huge army, were involved in several wars simultaneously and atop of that, were vassals to Diemed, OIT and had a network of guilds to maintain.

In RoE, things are not always what they seem :)
: Re: Domain wish list
: DM B September 13, 2008, 06:51:21 PM
Endier & KoH is a pretty complex domain. Endier is a vassal of Diemed. The KoH is a vassal of the Pontiff, who is currently the IHH regent. AND they have a pretty big army, paid for by the HO guild network...so it might be small in a sense, but it is one hell of a challenge to actually play!
: Re: Domain wish list
: DM B September 13, 2008, 07:16:56 PM
You should check out the updated descriptions for temples, mages and guilds.

Realms next...
: Re: Domain wish list
: Kurenai September 13, 2008, 07:28:41 PM
Bjorn, if you read the mail should your nonresponse be my understanding that your definitive answer is 'No' - or is my friend prudence?
: Re: Domain wish list
: potentialplayer September 13, 2008, 07:32:36 PM
Well, I responded to KoH because they sound rather cool. But if they're a bookkeeping nightmare, I'd better look for something else, yes.

Beginning too like the idea of Ilien more and more, though... hope no-one beats me to it.
: Re: Domain wish list
: DM B September 13, 2008, 08:28:58 PM
Bjorn, if you read the mail should your nonresponse be my understanding that your definitive answer is 'No' - or is my friend prudence?

I've replied now. Only predefined domains/regents. And no applications at the moment. Sorry.
: Re: Domain wish list
: DM B September 13, 2008, 08:31:12 PM
If you wish to play a wizard, I suggest looking over the ones that are available.
: Re: Domain wish list
: Kurenai September 13, 2008, 09:06:10 PM
My order of interest remains the same.

Sword Mages are always fun to think about, and there is a certain charm in Regien because the world is the world. Should more familiar players take these I will content myself with whatever is free preferring a Domain.

EDIT: Please forgive me for not mentioning this first, I wanted to thank-you very much for your speedy and courteous reply. I'll try to be as dedicated a player as you deserve.
: Re: Domain wish list
: X-Alamie (Alex) September 14, 2008, 07:26:52 PM

Rohrmarch might not make the final cut. It depends on how many players we get. It has some unique issues - being located at the edge of the play area with mostly NPC realms around. The Swordhawk to the north and a new threat from the east. It will be interesting, but it breaks with the desire to see PC domains compacted. We'll see how it turns out.

Ach. Well one can continue lurking then.
Maybe it could be a semi-actibe realm, with slightly less interaction with other players during harsher seasons like winter, a bit more DM Fiat. Allowing an area for committed though less often-posting players. The decision being yours. :)

The setting seems most promising.
: Re: Domain wish list
: X-Mhoired (Dan) September 14, 2008, 07:37:03 PM
I mentioned this in the OOC post, but for the sake of organization I'll mention it here as well:
The two domains I'd be interested in are Mhoried and Aerenwe, if those haven't already been earmarked.
The gist I get is that Mhoried  had a pretty eventful history the last time out, so naturally I'd understand if the veteran wanted first dibs.
I vaguely remember something about the Wardens, are they a modification from the original setting? How does their vassalge work?
: Re: Domain wish list
: X-Bellam & BC/TB (Bobby) September 14, 2008, 08:12:46 PM
They're new, an idea of Bjorn's, I believe.  They acted as allies to High Mage Aelies until his extremely unfortunate disappearance from play.  They're vassals to Aerenwe and basically own all the holdings in the Erebannien (such as those are) - they're not exactly servants of the crown, since they have their own agenda and not much interest in matters beyond the bounds of the woods, but are pretty loyal to the kingdom, since it protects their interests. 
: Re: Domain wish list
: X-DM Jon September 14, 2008, 08:23:28 PM
Hi Tighmaevril,

 Mhoried basically fell apart after the last male heir to the Mhor line died. In the aftermath the nation was ridden by a council of nobles and the HA who couldn't agree on anything. A pretender named Daen Wyld arose and stormed through most of the country using extremely experienced veterans from the war against the Gorgon (mercs basically), cutting the nation in half and taking Shieldhaven.

 Only due to the intervention of the Haelynic temples (HA, IHH & OIT), the ETN, the MOC and the KoH was Mhoried saved from this pretender and his ally the Warlock. And at the end of the day only a very young Kavarra (20 years by the start of present campaign I think) and an older scheming Maricoere was alive. But Kavarra got Dieman support in de facto claiming the throne - and noone wanted the HA to make the nation into a theocracy (apart from the IHH, crazy buggers  ;D)

 Anyway, long story short. This actually portrays the player situation in Mhoried. The HA was played actively by Robert, Regien shifted between two players and Kavarra was played by an inactive player. So ruling Mhoried is actually a pretty open book. Noone can claim to know better than others where the Kavarra familly would steer the wartorn nation.
: For DM Jon
: Kurenai September 14, 2008, 08:42:23 PM
As long as you aren't too adverse, hearing about the Sword Mage/Tornilen, Regien, the realm Osoerde and Bellam would be fun.
: Re: Domain wish list
: X-Roesone/ARR (Robert) September 14, 2008, 08:53:33 PM

 Mhoried basically fell apart after the last male heir to the Mhor line died. In the aftermath the nation was ridden by a council of nobles and the HA who couldn't agree on anything.

noone wanted the HA to make the nation into a theocracy (apart from the IHH, crazy buggers  ;D)

Far be it for me to disagree with the almighty DM, but if I may insert a small correction here, for the sake of clarity ;)

The nobles themselves could not agree on anything, HA could only remain as a neutral observer in their squabbles. As for the theocracy, that was never the plan. Before Kavarra acquired the throne in the interim between the two RoE games, HA's suggestion was to form a temporary stewardship until the nobles manage to agree on the rightful claimant. That was right after the civil war and there was danger that the nobles would continue the fight.

:)
: Re: Domain wish list
: DM B September 14, 2008, 09:03:19 PM
It should be noted that the HA - reluctantly - invested Kavarra as Mhor, but that the new Mhor has yet to reclaim the lost Crown of Mhoried.
: Re: Domain wish list
: Kurenai September 14, 2008, 09:05:09 PM
If not for obvious advantages this Aegis temple would benefit from that seems awfully altruistic of you. They appear to all outside observers as benevolent, like a guiding mother whose justice is unquestionable. The people would support your suggestion in the name of stability and the nobles would seem petty.

Naturally you knew the nobles would never agree on anything and in the end Haelyn's Aegis would be favoured either way. A theocracy by any other name..?

Do as the romans do, you monster.  8)
: Re: Domain wish list
: X-Roesone/ARR (Robert) September 14, 2008, 09:17:47 PM
hmm.... sounds like what Regien would say  ;D
: Re: Domain wish list
: X-DM Jon September 14, 2008, 09:20:07 PM
Hi Kurenai

 I'll be glad to oblige. The best person to ask about Bellam would be Bobby. However I'll chip in what little I know.

 Here goes:

 For Eastern Anuire one thing held true over the last 15 years. All that had gone before would undergo a period of such massive change that present day's residents would scarcely be able to remember the awesome power behind a name like Ghoere and the Duke Gavin Tael. His legacy simply vanished, torn apart by blindness. He had gambled on his ability to control his lessers in an iron fist, but was caught unaware, paralyzed and stabbed multiple times by his loyal lieutenants and newfound ally. The Sword Mage lord of Tornilen, Ghorien Hiriele lord of Ghieste and Jaison Raenech usurper of Osoerde.

 Ghoere was no more. His lands were split and swiftly divided between the three.

 The Swordmage sat astray Tornilen, brooding in darkness over this foul deed, but receiving no reproach from a temple of Cuiraecenites that was in the process of swift disintegration, the Swordmage decided to conserve power and wait out the conflict that soon tore the eastern world apart. Under the Swordmage's enigmatic rule, not one invasion ever crossed Tornilen's border and but priests of Haelyn decried this wizard as an enemy, all else let the Swordmage live in guarded peace. Why bother someone of such possible treachery?

 Untill one day a holy pact was made, a band of heroes set off for the icy reaches of deepest Five Peaks. There to fight, once and for all, the terrible entity the Eyeless One, scourge of northern Tuornen and Alamie. The Swordmage was one of them and there she revealed her true identity and took her place as a member of Anuire, perhaps not well-respected, but respected nonetheless. Her alliance with the shining hope of mankind, Pontiff-Cardinal Gielbert Aurlien, the path to her redemption in public eyes. Unfortunately, her redemption came at the price of his abdication. But that is another story.

 This tale had a not uncertain impact on the Swordmage's northerly wizardly neighbour, Regien. He was intrinsically connected to the land and well-being of his nation. Thus to see it torn apart in strife and bloody mayhem, cast a terrible curse on the elusive wizard. But a secret he discovered. Some new terrible power had marched alongside Daen Wyld into Mhoried, hoping that the usurpers sword and shield would provide cover for his wrestling of Mhoried's sources away from Regien. It was the Warlock, a man of evil and singular purpose. Driven on by dreams of ever greater power, he engineered the bloodbath that was Mhoried.
 Only the brotherhood of temples were strong enough to stop Wyld and Warlock in their tracks, and on their side fought Regien, some say even unto death and miraculous resurrection! Nonetheless Regien was a shadow of himself, accursed poison running through his veins, a dark purpose drawing him ever closer towards darkness, despair and the blood thereof. The Warlock had brought with him Azrai's curse and let it fall heavy and hard upon Regien.
 It is said that Pontiff-Cardinal Gielbert Aurlien cured Regien. It is certainly known that Pontiff-Cardinal Gielbert Aurlien engineered an alliance most strange and unnatural, indeed foul and evil to many. An alliance that ensured victory against the Eyeless One, as he gave the charge of Protector of the Five Peaks to the Warlock. And ensuring this nasty entity vacated Mhoried, never to return. Not many wept when Pontiff-Cardinal Gielbert Aurlien abdicated his throne. He was considered a man who had walked too close to the gates of Shadow. But that is another story.

 Regien's current fate is unknown. He is alive most certainly and actively working for the restoration of Mhoried. It is not known if he has succumbed to the curse, for he is a reclusive being, shunned by even his own for his strange and some say evil ways. Regien cares not, he is gifted with higher purpose.
: Re: Domain wish list
: X-Ilien & PCE September 14, 2008, 09:33:03 PM
i realized i never wrote my wishes here. so here they are, in order of preference: iron rider, sword mage, regien, mhoried, aerenwe.
: Re: Domain wish list
: Kurenai September 14, 2008, 09:34:19 PM
Oh, I like your narration very much. For the sake of perhaps older generations than my own (I don’t even know if quantifying that still counts); what is the history near Osoerde, Ghieste & HOT?
: Re: Domain wish list
: X-DM Jon September 14, 2008, 09:44:59 PM
Thx, Bellam and Osoerde were outside of my playing field, so I'm not "in the know", so to speak, of their more secret dealings. But I'll write something tomorrow perhaps. It's a long and bloody story of war, despair and constant betrayal. As only RoE can provide  ;D

 Ghieste is a shorter tale. Ghorien Hiriele styled himself a Duke and set about expanding his guild and corrupting the MOC. He made enemies of most everyone else, and was prevented from joining Diemed as a vassal by the OIT. Basically everyone thinks he's a lowborn guilder, a murderer, a thief and a breaker of oaths. He's certainly played the winds of war unlike anyone else, but Ghieste didn't exactly escape the great war between Diemed and Osoerde unscathed...
: Re: Domain wish list
: Kurenai September 14, 2008, 09:52:09 PM
Are you aware of Diemed and Coeranys..?

I'm reading you for all you're worth, as long as you don't literally write my ears off O-scrawl.
: Re: Domain wish list
: X-Mhoired (Dan) September 15, 2008, 12:11:30 AM
Thank you Jon, your history was certainly helpful, and well-told as well!
To make things even nicer, as I'm reading of the Tragedy of Regien, "Viva la Vida" by Coldplay was playing in the background. The music and lyrics of the song seemed nicely matched to the fates of both Regien and the Pontiff-Cardinal.
: Re: Domain wish list
: Kurenai September 15, 2008, 12:34:48 AM
I'm glad that you, unlike myself, managed to show how grateful you were.  :-[
: Re: Domain wish list
: X-DM Jon September 15, 2008, 12:38:42 AM
I'm glad that you, unlike myself, managed to show how grateful you were.  :-[

 ;D Don't worry so much! Tell me my friend, where are you from?
: Re: Domain wish list
: X-Roesone/ARR (Robert) September 15, 2008, 12:43:38 AM
How much is Regien paying you for this story, Jon? :P
: Re: Domain wish list
: Kurenai September 15, 2008, 01:48:01 AM
Right now I'm not sure, technically speaking I'm from different places. I don't want to give my present place of residence away, I don't consider myself to live there but that's where I am (that's Canada).

Strike my interest in the Sword Mage out. As soon as I know more about all the realms and regents I'll have my final list. Just think about your worst nightmares and relax. All the vassals 'from Ghoere' don't interest me.

Depending on what I learn I'm thinking about a Landed Regent.



 
: Re: Domain wish list
: X-Bellam & BC/TB (Bobby) September 15, 2008, 02:11:51 AM
Thx, Bellam and Osoerde were outside of my playing field, so I'm not "in the know", so to speak, of their more secret dealings.

Hokay.

Osoerde was originally ruled by Jaison Raenech, one of the nastiest folks to ever hold office in the region.  He'd usurped the throne and was hunting the right-born heir, William, through the countryside.  Eventually, he got bored with that and began conquering his neighbors, forging a powerful empire that eventually included as vassals Roesone, Aerenwe, part of what was once Ghoere, Elinie, and Coeranys - the most powerful empire the east had seen since the old Anuirean Empire.  Partway through this, though, the Pontiff of the IHH entered his castle and brought him to bay, placing upon him the Atonement spell and bringing him away from worship of Belinik and back to Haelyn, dispelling his evil nature at the same time (though not his ruthlessness or ambition).  Raenech seemed poised to make a play for the Iron Throne when the Gorgon began to move once more, and instead of continuing his conquests, he gathered every soldier he could and marched north to battle the awnshegh.  Though in the end he was slain, he drove the Gorgon back into his very citadel, and even after his death his armies were poised to bring it down.  In desperation, the Gorgon cast a mighty realm spell that summoned up thousands of undead, many of them the fallen of Raenech's own army.  Through a valiant sacrifice by an elven regent, the spell was partially defeated - the dead rose, but not under the Gorgon's command.  They rose under the undead leadership of Jaison Raenech, born again and filled with undying hatred for the monster who had slain him.  This undead army cut its way through the retreating Anuireans and laid siege to the Gorgon's keep once more, and none know (or will say, at least) what became of them.

In the meantime, William, now William Osoer, had been designated as Raenech's heir after his Atonement.  Osoer ruled Osoerde and married Raenech's widow, Marlae, Queen of part of old Ghoere.  They wound up waging war to keep the vassals of the empire under their dominance as Roesone and Aerenwe rose up against them with Diemed's help.  In addition, Ghiriele, lord of another part of Ghoere, joined them as well, betraying Marlae and beseiging her keep with mercenaries.  In the end, Osoer largely lost the war - Roesone and Aerenwe won their freedom, Ilien became a vassal of Diemed, and Marlae's lands were divided up.  Osoer withdrew into his own lands, furious, but unable to act - especially as he now faced upheavals even within his own lands.

Bellam, meanwhile, was a Countship of both Roesone (province of Bellam) and of Aerenwe (province of Dhoenel, gifted to Bellamie by Raenech for services rendered).  Bellamie was publically untrusted by both his regents, not least because of the substantial guild holdings he held within Osoerde.  Though he fought on the side of the Southern Alliance at the beginning of the war, he later turned his coat after a near-fatal assassination attempt, which he claimed was the work of the Queen of Aerenwe seeking to remove an untrusted noble so she could give Dhoenel to her followers.  Joining Osoerde, he saw the loss of Dhoenel in the eventual peace treaty and the loss of most of his guilds in Roesone and Aerenwe in the war, but gained two new provinces in Osoerde by marriage when their old Baron died.  Nevertheless, Bellamie claimed grievance against Osoer, claiming that Osoer had promised him that Dhoenel would remain in his hands no matter what.  He eventually joined with the IHH and ETN to demand that Osoer change his ways and act to address their grievances at the end of the war, going so far as to publicly refuse to swear vassalage to Osoer until their demands were met.

The IHH's claim was that Osoer had treated them badly, made unacceptable demands of them, and refused to return to them lands, relics, and holy graveyards stolen by Raenech - and that he had attempted to ransom those lands back to them.  The ETN sought to punish Osoer for treating the temples as his vassals and to support their ally, the IHH.  Bellamie claimed mistreatment, violation of promise, and excessive demands of vassalage after Bellamie had willingly joined Osoer's cause.  Osoer, meanwhile, made alliance with other temples to try to negate the IHH and ETN's power.  The IHH and ETN struck out with divine magic, cursing Osoer's lands and driving him into economic collapse, then, in turn, blessing them to show their mercy and desire for peaceful negotiation.  The game ended before the final results were shown. 

As an interesting note, though the details did not become common knowledge, it is known that Bellamie joined the Pontiff of the IHH and several other regents in traveling to a far-off realm to strike down the Lost - a story that helped disprove the rumors that Bellamie had begun to practice dark arts himself.  Osoer, though, refused to aid the various groups that sought, in many places to oppose the Lost, which hurt him badly in the contest for the hearts of the people of Osoerde after the war.
: Re: Domain wish list
: Kurenai September 15, 2008, 03:49:52 AM
Better sooner than later -- I've got a feeling I should be going in a different direction and should bow out of this opportunity.

Many thanks for your kindness, I'm grateful to have met this group.

May your game prosper as well as you do.  :)
: Re: Domain wish list
: X-Mhoired (Dan) September 15, 2008, 03:54:23 AM
No worries, Kurenai, your appreciation was certainly implied in your thirst for knowledge.
: Re: Domain wish list
: X-Maesil Shippers/ML (Kalle) September 15, 2008, 02:47:21 PM
im not all sure my self, but i think id like to play MS or Mhoried this time. Liked it up there.
: Re: Domain wish list
: X-DM Jon September 15, 2008, 02:48:51 PM
Better sooner than later -- I've got a feeling I should be going in a different direction and should bow out of this opportunity.

Many thanks for your kindness, I'm grateful to have met this group.

May your game prosper as well as you do.  :)

Thanks man, you're always welcome to join if you're interested.
: Re: Domain wish list
: X-IHH (Murphy) September 15, 2008, 07:38:27 PM
So Roesone managed to throw off the yoke that was on them;  was it a player that achieved that, and if so are they around?  I'd be interested in hearing their narration the same way we've heard for the other realms.
: Re: Domain wish list
: X-DM Jon September 16, 2008, 01:08:33 PM
Hi Murphy, it was a player who achieved it.
 He got a ravaged nation for his efforts, since most of the battles were fought in Roesone - and between Diemed and Osoerde mainly.

 And in the end he participated in fighting the Eyeless One, but got hit square in the head something fierce and ended up in a coma. I think he was cured, but it's possible that a new regent for Roesone is not too far off. It'll be interesting if the nation can keep allied with Diemed or whether that old conflict will start up once again.
: Re: Domain wish list
: X-Roesone/ARR (Robert) September 16, 2008, 02:07:16 PM
He got a ravaged nation for his efforts, since most of the battles were fought in Roesone - and between Diemed and Osoerde mainly.

I'm beginning to see a pattern here.

Mhoried invaded + civil war = Free Mhoried + ravaged
Roesone breaks vassalage + war = Free Roesone + ravaged
 ;D
: Re: Domain wish list
: X-Ghieste & HOT/GH (Matt) September 16, 2008, 03:18:44 PM
Currently Ghieste & HOT is calling me  ;)
: Re: Domain wish list
: X-DM Jon September 16, 2008, 07:05:21 PM
Currently Ghieste & HOT is calling me  ;)

 You won't win any popularity contest as Ghorien Hiriele  ;D

 But it's certainly an interesting challenge.
: Re: Domain wish list
: DM B September 16, 2008, 07:21:01 PM
I think that was the whole point...after playing happy cozy Coeranys in RoE  ;D
: Re: Domain wish list
: X-Ghieste & HOT/GH (Matt) September 16, 2008, 08:16:12 PM
Yes, I was the happy go lucky WD with the sneaky money bags on poor peasant's doors... I figured it was fun to break fingers this time round....
: Re: Domain wish list
: X-Tornilen/SM (John) September 17, 2008, 01:48:43 AM
Hi, my name is John and I've been playing and running BR games for about 10 years or so.  Played in a number of PBeMs and tried running a couple - the last of which sadly died when my computer blew up.  I work in politics on a daily basis as a political advisor/researcher.

I've had a soft spot for the Sword Mage ever since playing him/her in Randy's old Night of Fire PBeM and would love to have a second go with that character in a fresh setting.  If Sword Mage was no longer available, I'd be interested in Ghieste or another landed regent.  I will be a regular player/poster on the forums, but I'm unlikely to have the time to do justice to a key realm such as Diemed.
: Re: Domain wish list
: X-Osoerde (Alan) September 17, 2008, 03:15:02 AM
:)

I have to admit.  In the plethora of years I played RoE, I always wanted to play a landed domain.

If I were to play, Osoerde, Diemed, and a Wizzie of some sort, are at the top of my list. ;)
: Re: Domain wish list
: X-Bellam & BC/TB (Bobby) September 17, 2008, 04:56:40 AM
Having you wind up playing Osoer would possibly qualify as a sign of the end times, frankly.
: Re: Domain wish list
: X-DM Jon September 17, 2008, 09:49:01 AM
:)

I have to admit.  In the plethora of years I played RoE, I always wanted to play a landed domain.

If I were to play, Osoerde, Diemed, and a Wizzie of some sort, are at the top of my list. ;)

 The man is in the house!  ;D

 How're you doing?
 Me? I didn't get into the military ::)
: Re: Domain wish list
: X-Roesone/ARR (Robert) September 17, 2008, 11:18:11 AM
If I were to play, Osoerde, Diemed, and a Wizzie of some sort, are at the top of my list. ;)

I'm still unsure whether I'd prefer to continue as HA or apply for Diemed. If you're going for Osoerde, I'll just have to go for Diemed. For once it would be fun to be antagonists  :D

Welcome back man!
: Re: Domain wish list
: X-Osoerde (Alan) September 17, 2008, 01:32:58 PM
Bring it on! :)
: Re: Domain wish list
: X-Ghieste & HOT/GH (Matt) September 17, 2008, 01:34:52 PM
Nice to see the development of friendly banter has already begun.

*starts fortifying his borders*
: Re: Domain wish list
: X-Roesone/ARR (Robert) September 17, 2008, 01:40:20 PM
Bring it on! :)

Did I say antagonists? I meant brothers and allies.... silly me :D
: Re: Domain wish list
: X-Osoerde (Alan) September 17, 2008, 08:17:33 PM
Already starting creating a hit list!! ;)

1. Coeranys ;)
2. Elinie.
3. Jon (Where's my money??)
4. Robert(s).

:)
: Re: Domain wish list
: X-Roesone/ARR (Robert) September 17, 2008, 11:21:04 PM
hmmm.... smells like someone's already turning Osoerdian big time  ;D
: Re: Domain wish list
: X-Tornilen/SM (John) September 17, 2008, 11:53:32 PM
Roesone is going to have an interesting time, stuck between you two guys.  :)
: Re: Domain wish list
: X-Roesone/ARR (Robert) September 17, 2008, 11:54:56 PM
of course... imagine all the money being poured into Roesonean coffers from both sides just to get them to be friendly :D
: Re: Domain wish list
: X-Tornilen/SM (John) September 17, 2008, 11:56:33 PM
And all the gold being poured in by numerous other parties trying to keep Roesone neutral!  ;D
: Re: Domain wish list
: X-Bellam & BC/TB (Bobby) September 18, 2008, 01:34:52 AM
I've actually been tempted by Diemed as well.  I'm not sure there's much more diametrically opposite the position I held in the previous game, so at least it'd be an interesting change.   ;)
: Re: Domain wish list
: X-Osoerde (Alan) September 18, 2008, 02:30:30 AM
Diemed has a lot of potential.  Particular after Bjorn starts setting agendas.

In every chapter I know of, major agendas were competing agendas.  Imagine if the major agenda of your vassals was 'independence' from their liege. LOL.

: Re: Domain wish list
: X-Mhoried/Constantine Mhor (Wiktor) September 18, 2008, 10:29:10 AM
Choosing a domain unfolded a great dilemma... Stay near Mhoried (more interesting  :-X) or not (safer  ;D)...

Wiktor
: Re: Domain wish list
: X-Tornilen/SM (John) September 18, 2008, 11:41:49 AM
Heh, you think somewhere else will be safe?  :D
: Re: Domain wish list
: X-Medoere & RCS/KE (Thorsten) September 18, 2008, 11:46:43 AM
Diemed has a lot of potential.  Particular after Bjorn starts setting agendas.

In every chapter I know of, major agendas were competing agendas.  Imagine if the major agenda of your vassals was 'independence' from their liege. LOL.

Oh come now, why would you even say that? Medoere celebrates "We wuv our 'emperor'..." day almost all year long!  ::)

Welcome back Harvey.

- Thorsten
: Re: Domain wish list
: X-Roesone/ARR (Robert) September 18, 2008, 02:51:22 PM

Oh come now, why would you even say that? Medoere celebrates "We wuv our 'emperor'..." day almost all year long!  ::)


Hmm.... in case I get Diemen reins you better remember to use the word "emperor" only in private. We wouldn't want to give Avan or Boeruine any wrong ideas ;)
: Re: Domain wish list
: X-Osoerde (Alan) September 18, 2008, 03:18:30 PM
Diemed has a lot of potential.  Particular after Bjorn starts setting agendas.

In every chapter I know of, major agendas were competing agendas.  Imagine if the major agenda of your vassals was 'independence' from their liege. LOL.

Oh come now, why would you even say that? Medoere celebrates "We wuv our 'emperor'..." day almost all year long!  ::)

Welcome back Harvey.

- Thorsten

Thank you Thorsten!  I am glad to return.
: Re: Domain wish list
: DM B September 18, 2008, 08:09:33 PM
Diemed has a lot of potential.  Particular after Bjorn starts setting agendas.

In every chapter I know of, major agendas were competing agendas.  Imagine if the major agenda of your vassals was 'independence' from their liege. LOL.

That's the whole point...agendas are purposefully designed to clash...
: Re: Domain wish list
: X-Ghieste & HOT/GH (Matt) September 19, 2008, 09:06:43 AM
Or as they might say "this feature was designed to encourage competitive play, based on scarcity of resource and oppositional demands and requirements for the utilisation of those resources."

 ;)
: Re: Domain wish list
: DM B September 19, 2008, 09:48:59 AM
Or - ready, set, conflict!
: Re: Domain wish list
: X-Ghieste & HOT/GH (Matt) September 19, 2008, 12:33:50 PM
And always remember "Overkill is still dead".
: Re: Domain wish list
: X-Mhoried/Constantine Mhor (Wiktor) September 19, 2008, 02:43:38 PM
Well, to be sincere no place is truly safe. However, I do have a legary of dealing with any available devil in that particular area. Bloody shame the 'lock  is an npc ;)
Heh, you think somewhere else will be safe?  :D
: Re: Domain wish list
: X-Alamie (Alex) September 19, 2008, 04:22:19 PM
Hmm. Assuming that Rohrmarch stays off limits ( :'() and assuming that Alamie remains NPC definitely, can one read more about the internal strife looming in Elinie? Is it intra-rulers, or between Anuirean-bred nobility (a popping-up scion of the Elin) and Khinasi lords or something else?
One is curious...
: Re: Domain wish list
: X-Diemed/Carvaloen Diem (Sheldon) September 19, 2008, 06:25:18 PM
Hi all again!!

hmmm, do I want to be Endier again or somewhere else.  I really enjoyed that domain... but my enjoyment off of it really depended on who Diemed was.  I think I might just be crazy enough to try to be Diemed if you guys will let me.  should I go for comfort (Endier) or an upgraded challenge (Diemed), I know both of you DM's know my playing style, I'll let you decide what best fits your devious whims.  ;D
: Re: Domain wish list
: X-Alamie (Alex) September 20, 2008, 11:54:21 AM
Alamie has turned PC? This is most alluring!
: Re: Domain wish list
: DM B September 20, 2008, 12:27:26 PM
Well, the northern half of Alamie is mostly ruins, so I wouldn't get so exited...
: Re: Domain wish list
: X-Roesone/ARR (Robert) September 20, 2008, 12:32:23 PM
Yah, when undead tend to compose 90% of the self-locomoting humanoids in a province, it tends to have a slightly adverse effect on the general esthetics of the area :D
: Re: Domain wish list
: X-Alamie (Alex) September 20, 2008, 12:53:24 PM
Still, I guess there is aplenty to do in Alamie.
Community building between the living and non-living ones and what not :)
Certainly an utmost challenging realm!
: Re: Domain wish list
: DM B September 20, 2008, 02:30:31 PM
 ::)

Well, the northern provinces are down to level 2 and 1, but the rest is intact, so it's a good realm still.
: Re: Domain wish list
: X-Alamie (Alex) September 20, 2008, 04:55:06 PM
::)

Well, the northern provinces are down to level 2 and 1, but the rest is intact, so it's a good realm still.

Anyway, it is not about having a full set of provinces 10/0, but rather in the RP stemming from the position, right?  :D
: Re: Domain wish list
: X-Roesone/ARR (Robert) September 20, 2008, 05:19:35 PM
Like being the only ancient house to consider the wealthy upstart duke of Ghieste a peer...

hmmmm.... sounds like you'd have a cash cow there to help with the rebuilding  ;D
: Re: Domain wish list
: DM B September 20, 2008, 05:58:18 PM
Me thinks that might have been the point...
: Re: Domain wish list
: X-Ghieste & HOT/GH (Matt) September 20, 2008, 08:22:35 PM
Methinks you have indeed hit the nail on the head....
: Re: Domain wish list
: X-Mhoired (Dan) September 20, 2008, 09:20:13 PM
Yah, when undead tend to compose 90% of the self-locomoting humanoids in a province, it tends to have a slightly adverse effect on the general esthetics of the area 

Oh, I love what you've done with the place! Early Cadaver?
: Re: Domain wish list
: X-DM Jon September 21, 2008, 07:08:12 AM
::)

Well, the northern provinces are down to level 2 and 1, but the rest is intact, so it's a good realm still.

 What Bjørn is actually saying: the northern provinces are up to level 2 and 1...
: Re: Domain wish list
: X-Tornilen/SM (John) September 21, 2008, 09:34:05 AM
Yeah, Alamie looks like a really interesting realm to play - lots of potential.   There's an unstable neighbour to the east with Mhoried, the perilous Five Peaks to the north, the internal politics, the list goes on. :)
: Re: Domain wish list
: X-SRT (Tallak) September 22, 2008, 08:42:54 AM
As mentioned in the introduction thread; the Spider River Traders are on my wish list. I'd like to give this game a chance, extolled as it has been by several people whose taste I respect, but I'd like to start small. A guilder seems perfect to get a hang of things, even more so when he has a province (so I can learn that aspect of the game as well).
: Re: Domain wish list
: X-IHH (Murphy) September 22, 2008, 08:04:41 PM
I was wondering if I could get some information on the Conclave of Churches, its foundation, its mandate and any amusing annecdotes about it?  I've been told I should be directing this in the general direction of DM Jon, but anyone who has something to share, please do.
: Re: Domain wish list
: X-DM Jon September 23, 2008, 02:00:15 PM
The short version of the CoT's history, is it's created out of the Haelynic temples desire to reunite under one Pontiff. Unfortunately none of the temples were strong enough to unite the whole of Anuire and it got more and more ugly. Culminating with the death of Rhuobher Nichaleir and Hubaere Armiendin at each other's swords.

 After that the WIT & IHH squared off against each other, creating their own pontiff of the western and eastern Anuire. The OIT had at first supported the IHH against the WIT, but shifted focus after the IHH proclaimed Martin Royce as Pontiff, and turned to the WIT with an ingenious proposal... Ally against the EO and in so doing, create the Conclave of Temples with the OIT Cardinal Aurlien as it's first Pontiff.

 This organisation was based on the inherent distrust between the temples. It didn't try to force one temple on all the others, but based it's influence on treaty and willing support - and most importantly: It shifted the post of Pontiff around every two years, shifting between the five major Haelynite temples.

 It's creation was the basis for a legendary victory.
 Conclave troops fought in one way or the other on two different fields of battle and alongside it's allies, defeated the armies of the Eyeless One and the Red Wind's gnoll army that had invaded Mieres.

 Thus the CoT was an immediate success - as long as a common enemy could be found. Indeed it is very likely the only focus that the CoT will ever be really succesful at...

 Presently the CoT is very likely suffering from the same problem that set in almost immediately for the victorious Pontiff Aurlien, the general level of squabbling, rivalry and fear that exists between the temples make them very wary of supplying resources to one leader. Aurlien tried to use the CoT to counter famine and epidemics on an Anuirean level, but was met with a stonewall of distrust and "we can do it ourselves" mentality. The victory was as quickly forgotten as it was won...

 So to be Pontiff of the CoT is to lift a position of great responsibility, prestige and some military power (though this is de facto in the hands of the WIT, OIT & KoH) but also being the focus of a lot of distrust and worse things. Aurlien abdicated his post as Cardinal of the OIT due to some of the choices he had made as Pontiff. The two positions quite simply ended up in opposition to each other.
: Re: Domain wish list
: X-Medoere & RCS/KE (Thorsten) September 24, 2008, 04:59:52 AM
The short version of the CoT's history, is it's created out of the Haelynic temples desire to reunite under one Pontiff. Unfortunately none of the temples were strong enough to unite the whole of Anuire and it got more and more ugly. Culminating with the death of Rhuobher Nichaleir and Hubaere Armiendin at each other's swords.

 After that the WIT & IHH squared off against each other, creating their own pontiff of the western and eastern Anuire. The OIT had at first supported the IHH against the WIT, but shifted focus after the IHH proclaimed Martin Royce as Pontiff, and turned to the WIT with an ingenious proposal... Ally against the EO and in so doing, create the Conclave of Temples with the OIT Cardinal Aurlien as it's first Pontiff.

 This organisation was based on the inherent distrust between the temples. It didn't try to force one temple on all the others, but based it's influence on treaty and willing support - and most importantly: It shifted the post of Pontiff around every two years, shifting between the five major Haelynite temples.

 It's creation was the basis for a legendary victory.
 Conclave troops fought in one way or the other on two different fields of battle and alongside it's allies, defeated the armies of the Eyeless One and the Red Wind's gnoll army that had invaded Mieres.

 Thus the CoT was an immediate success - as long as a common enemy could be found. Indeed it is very likely the only focus that the CoT will ever be really succesful at...

 Presently the CoT is very likely suffering from the same problem that set in almost immediately for the victorious Pontiff Aurlien, the general level of squabbling, rivalry and fear that exists between the temples make them very wary of supplying resources to one leader. Aurlien tried to use the CoT to counter famine and epidemics on an Anuirean level, but was met with a stonewall of distrust and "we can do it ourselves" mentality. The victory was as quickly forgotten as it was won...

 So to be Pontiff of the CoT is to lift a position of great responsibility, prestige and some military power (though this is de facto in the hands of the WIT, OIT & KoH) but also being the focus of a lot of distrust and worse things. Aurlien abdicated his post as Cardinal of the OIT due to some of the choices he had made as Pontiff. The two positions quite simply ended up in opposition to each other.

*clears throat*

I think you will find, that it was a Dieman army that defeated the Red Wind's gnollish forces. With aid from the OIT and Medoere (who more often than not, led the assault  :D)

Edit:
By the way... i still have all those mails from the Mieres campaign. I could gather it together in a story or somesuch, and post it on these boards, if it's okay with Bjørn?
: Re: Domain wish list
: DM B September 24, 2008, 06:07:44 AM
Its OK with Bjørn - it would belong in "the Bard"
: Re: Domain wish list
: X-DM Jon September 25, 2008, 04:30:07 PM
Conclave troops fought in one way or the other on two different fields of battle and alongside it's allies, defeated the armies of the Eyeless One and the Red Wind's gnoll army that had invaded Mieres.

*clears throat*

I think you will find, that it was a Dieman army that defeated the Red Wind's gnollish forces. With aid from the OIT and Medoere (who more often than not, led the assault  :D)

Edit:
By the way... i still have all those mails from the Mieres campaign. I could gather it together in a story or somesuch, and post it on these boards, if it's okay with Bjørn?

 Ah, but if you read my post, you will see mention of "allies". I said it was the short version didn't I?  ;)

 And who do you think cajoled, browbeat and begged the Archduke to concentrate his forces in Mieres while threatening doom, destruction and deific displeasure if he did not make peace with Osoerde? And were the Medoeran forces present not supplied partly by the RCS instead of paying the tithe to the Pontiff?

 Huge Conclave victory.
: Re: Domain wish list
: X-Medoere & RCS/KE (Thorsten) September 25, 2008, 05:06:56 PM
Those RCS troops would probably have been there as well... the curse of a theocracy. Military might is temple AND law :P
: Re: Domain wish list
: DM B September 25, 2008, 07:44:25 PM
Look, a new and more fearsome Green Knight...should I keep it?
: Re: Domain wish list
: X-Ghieste & HOT/GH (Matt) September 25, 2008, 07:47:06 PM
Of course! But then I would say that.... and should this not be in the avatar testing thread?  ;)
: Re: Domain wish list
: X-Roesone/ARR (Robert) September 25, 2008, 07:47:19 PM
Look, a new and more fearsome Green Knight...should I keep it?

This isn't the one we've all learned to fear and hate with such great love  ;D
: Re: Domain wish list
: X-Osoerde (Alan) September 26, 2008, 12:07:19 AM
Look, a new and more fearsome Green Knight...should I keep it?

What's new? ;)
: Re: Domain wish list
: X-Roesone/ARR (Robert) September 27, 2008, 12:36:48 AM
Who's the mystery player of ETN?  ;D
: Re: Domain wish list
: DM B September 27, 2008, 08:27:28 AM
Who's the mystery player of ETN?  ;D

Dimitris. He played the PETG for a while in RoE I before getting drafted (isn't that right Dimitris?).
: Re: Domain wish list
: X-ETN (Dimitris) September 27, 2008, 09:43:45 AM
Yes actually, impressive memory!
: Re: Domain wish list
: X-Roesone/ARR (Robert) September 27, 2008, 10:07:15 AM
Dim, good to see you again, old boy! :)


*Instructs the Society of the Serpent to capture the fugitive DM*  ;D
: Re: Domain wish list
: X-SRT (Tallak) September 28, 2008, 08:14:27 PM
Dim, you scallywag, you old miscreant, you! Good to see you around! :D
: Re: Domain wish list
: X-Mhoried/Constantine Mhor (Wiktor) October 06, 2008, 11:32:35 PM
A bit late but I just checked song and lyrics... yeah fitting.

Thank you Jon, your history was certainly helpful, and well-told as well!
To make things even nicer, as I'm reading of the Tragedy of Regien, "Viva la Vida" by Coldplay was playing in the background. The music and lyrics of the song seemed nicely matched to the fates of both Regien and the Pontiff-Cardinal.
: Re: Domain wish list
: X-Mhoired (Dan) October 15, 2008, 11:39:34 PM
It's a great song, I surf the radio stations on the drive home hoping to hear it. I suppose I'll have to just suck it up and buy it at some point....