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: DM B June 23, 2011, 10:35:18 AM
New P&H uploaded

It still lacks some adjustments to prosperity and some NPC actions, but at least it should enable you to start planning in more detail.

Feedback goes here.

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: DM B June 23, 2011, 10:37:15 AM
Note: Forgot to add Ilien investitures. Will do that for v216
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: X-Tuornen/LF (Geir) June 23, 2011, 11:33:03 AM
Tour's Hold
the Boer Garrison -1 effect was fixed in the 213 PH, but now it is back.
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: X-Brosengae [Cloene] (Linde) June 23, 2011, 05:34:41 PM
Storm Coast: BRG grants 30 GB to Brosen nobles, but only pay 20 GB
Domains Page: is missing Brosengae.
Is the income roll for Brosengae made?
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: X-Osoerde (Alan) June 23, 2011, 06:57:40 PM
House Tshalen is paying their tribute/tithe (3 GB)
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: X-Haelyn's Aegis/RK (Andy) June 23, 2011, 11:41:12 PM
The HA temple in Riverspring should be L2.

I'll leave Niels to check the prosperity in Osoeriene as I'd have thought that would be better by now (unless he decided to commit another random act of heresy).

The LPA now has a new leader, although they are being coy about who so possibly they haven't told anyone that it isn't Gaerred anymore...
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: X-Avanil/Aubrae Avan (Thorsten) June 24, 2011, 12:13:11 AM
Someone seems to have misplaced a sizable amount of GB that should be going to the WIT. (Or is one-time grants not shown in the P&H?)
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: X-Ghieste & HOT/GH (Matt) June 24, 2011, 12:19:18 PM
Prosperity not showing blessings in Ghieste.

Grants of 5GB for MOC and 2GB for SwordMage not shown either.
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: X-Osoerde (Alan) June 24, 2011, 07:43:29 PM
Bjorn, I am a bit confused.

Are we suppose to be using the "Domain" tab or our "region" tab (e.g. Anuirean Heartlands, Eastern Marches, etc), to see our domain income?
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: DM B June 24, 2011, 09:31:55 PM
Bjorn, I am a bit confused.

Are we suppose to be using the "Domain" tab or our "region" tab (e.g. Anuirean Heartlands, Eastern Marches, etc), to see our domain income?

All domains should use the info in the Domain tab. The regional tabs will soon be converted into reference-only tabs.
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: X-Ghieste & HOT/GH (Matt) June 24, 2011, 09:38:28 PM
All domains should use the info in the Domain tab. The regional tabs will soon be converted into reference-only tabs.

However the information between the two tabs is isconsistent, for example the income roll and the current stability. The regional tab is accurate to what I know to be the case where as the domain tab is not.
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: DM B June 24, 2011, 09:39:21 PM
All domains should use the info in the Domain tab. The regional tabs will soon be converted into reference-only tabs.

However the information between the two tabs is isconsistent, for example the income roll and the current stability. The regional tab is accurate to what I know to be the case where as the domain tab is not.

Aaaahiiiiaaa, bollocks!
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: X-Bellam & BC/TB (Bobby) June 25, 2011, 12:10:58 AM
The income from South Hold and the BC is not combined anywhere in the Domains tab.  Is that intentional?

The South Hold income line doesn't include the 2GB tribute from TrB's vassals.
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: X-Brosengae [Cloene] (Linde) June 25, 2011, 12:53:25 AM
PCE ruled its guild in Ilien to 9 before transfering it all to SASI.... I dont know how much of it they have sold/given to SAS.
PCE holdings in Ariya need to be transfered to SASI as well
PCE created trade holdings in Eustan, Mesire and Namal(Mesire) SASI need those lvl 0 holdings as well.

Yeah, I know... Iliens DO was great for SASI
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: DM B June 25, 2011, 09:16:41 AM
PCE ruled its guild in Ilien to 9 before transfering it all to SASI.... I dont know how much of it they have sold/given to SAS.
PCE holdings in Ariya need to be transfered to SASI as well
PCE created trade holdings in Eustan, Mesire and Namal(Mesire) SASI need those lvl 0 holdings as well.

Yeah, I know... Iliens DO was great for SASI

Ilien's guilds should all belong to SASI; but they are obliges to sell part of it to the SAS if Mark is willing to pay.
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: X-Osoerde (Alan) June 28, 2011, 06:00:16 AM
There should be a 1 GB Grant to the ETN from WO in the P&H.
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: DM B June 28, 2011, 08:56:59 AM
I'm so going to ban all grants :D
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: X-Osoerde (Alan) June 28, 2011, 07:18:53 PM
LOL.

I wish there was a better way to track them. 
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: X-Tuornen/LF (Geir) June 28, 2011, 07:39:58 PM
I'm so going to ban all grants :D

oh well, sad thing we cant repay our loans then. I would cry and cry and cry forever and a day if I could not repay a loan.... :'(
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: DM B June 28, 2011, 10:05:53 PM
LOL.

I wish there was a better way to track them.

I'm considering a 'grant' sub-section of the forum.
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: X-Osoerde (Alan) June 29, 2011, 03:31:30 AM
I'm considering a 'grant' sub-section of the forum.

What holds you back? 
Something like this could work.  But to prevent things from getting lost in posts, would you create a subsection of the forum for every domain to list the grants they pay? Or something else?
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: X-WIT/Toreas Kharnmoin (Rune) June 29, 2011, 08:42:45 AM
I'm considering a 'grant' sub-section of the forum.

What holds you back? 
Something like this could work.  But to prevent things from getting lost in posts, would you create a subsection of the forum for every domain to list the grants they pay? Or something else?

But what if I don't want everybody to know that WIT is secretly funding TOG in Tornilen?  Cause... it's a secret you know! :-X
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: X-ETN/Maire Cwyllmie (Libor) June 29, 2011, 03:18:52 PM
Regional sheet "Straits of Aerele" shows some different format from other sheets. It looks like report design or whatever. Do others see the sheet the same way?
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: X-Osoerde (Alan) June 29, 2011, 04:45:54 PM
That sheet is a tab bit screwy at the moment.  B, knows about it.

Try looking at the Domains tab at the very beginning. It is also a tad bit screwy, but it should provide you with adequate information to begin planning your turn (particularly if you update it a bit).
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: X-Aerenwe/TS (Miloš) August 25, 2011, 12:19:23 PM
This game really needs a web app.
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: X-Roesone/ARR (Robert) August 25, 2011, 07:02:24 PM
Questions regarding Boeruine


Master list has the following income: 62,6 +34 (22 vassals +12 BTG)

However, reading the individual domains Bradon Boer was getting: 11,3 (Western Isles), 44,8 (Boeruine), 11,9 (Northern Taeghas) for a total of 68 before tributes.

Is this an error? Are the Western Isles included? If not, that would still not explain the number 62,6 :)

Also:

+3 grant from WIS is listed on the Regional page but not in the Master list. Since they are from the Western Isles, I can speculate that after Brandon's death, their tribute ceased.
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: X-Roesone/ARR (Robert) August 26, 2011, 11:17:00 AM
I forgot the Imperial City's 5,9... which when added to Boeurine and Northern Taeghas, comes to 62,6

Ok, everything sorted out. Just the Western Isles are unaccounted for, just like Brandon said.
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: DM B August 26, 2011, 07:02:46 PM
You have to keep in mind that Boeruine has been an NPC area up until now, so that actual province and holding levels may very somewhat.

Watch out for the P&H 71 for updated figures.
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: X-Roesone/ARR (Robert) August 26, 2011, 08:16:22 PM
Watch out

Uh, oh... there goes Boeruine :D
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: DM B August 26, 2011, 09:13:26 PM
Need to look at possible province level adjustments, maybe fill in some more holdings slots.