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: A Game of Thrones
: DM B May 06, 2011, 09:26:56 PM
And Tyrion is clearly my favorite character in the series as well as in the books. How can you not love a little runt like that?
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: X-Elinie/RiD (Niels) May 12, 2011, 12:19:17 AM
The only Lannister with a good side.
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: X-Bellam & BC/TB (Bobby) May 12, 2011, 05:44:01 PM
His brother is slowly getting a basic sense of honor beaten into him by the universe.  Slooooowllllyyyy......
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: X-Avanil/Aubrae Avan (Thorsten) May 12, 2011, 07:51:51 PM
His brother is slowly getting a basic sense of honor beaten into him by the universe.  Slooooowllllyyyy......

Jaime is awesome. The epitome of what every Avanese citizen should strive to be (sans the incest).
When I find myself in times of trouble, I often ask myself: WWJD? What would Jaime do?
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: X-Elinie/RiD (Niels) May 12, 2011, 07:52:35 PM
Having not read the books, I must say my sympathy lies with the young Stark girl with Needle and the sister to the Dragon, married off to the barbarian king. ( I suck at names, forgive me )

How they both rebel against expectations and try to carve the world into a place where they make their own room.

The Bastard at the wall is too moping and weak to inspire any emotion. - Tyrion is indeed awesome in contrast!
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: X-Bellam & BC/TB (Bobby) May 12, 2011, 09:58:20 PM
Daenyrys is pretty cool, if a little scary.  All the power that winds up in her hands, and she's still SO young and still figuring the world out... sort of that world's Alexander the Great.  Lots of chances for her to really cause terrible things without meaning to.

I'm fond of Bran.  He holds up solidly under a lot of crap, especially given his age.
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: DM B May 13, 2011, 08:54:59 AM
Watched 3 episodes thus far...and I'm quite enjoying it. Not totally blow away though...but that may be because I've ready the books. I guess the lack of suspense detracts from the experience.

...and I'm also starting to think of things that made me more or less give up on the series (book-wise that is)...
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: X-Tornilen/SM (Alexander) May 16, 2011, 12:45:41 AM
Bobby, so all Avanese citizens should aspire to be attempted child murderers? Jaime is a great character and is going through some interesting development, but his moral compass is skewed, to say the least.

And yeah, Tyrion is the greates of them all. Can't wait to see him come back at the Dragon Queen's side, eager to tear down everything his father and his damned family has built... they will BURN :D
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: X-Avanil/Aubrae Avan (Thorsten) May 16, 2011, 09:58:38 AM
Bobby, so all Avanese citizens should aspire to be attempted child murderers? Jaime is a great character and is going through some interesting development, but his moral compass is skewed, to say the least.

And yeah, Tyrion is the greates of them all. Can't wait to see him come back at the Dragon Queen's side, eager to tear down everything his father and his damned family has built... they will BURN :D

Oh, but how easy my life would be, if some loyal citizen had shoved the children of the Boer's out the window loooong ago. To survive in Anuire, one requires ruthlessness and dedication. We've seen that time and time again. Jaime has both of those, plus a strong sense of loyalty and fairly decent skills with a blade. What's not to like? :P
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: X-Tornilen/SM (Alexander) May 16, 2011, 03:58:13 PM
Ah, seems I for some reason messed you and Bobby up. I agree with Bobby, he is slowly getting some decency beaten into him.

Well, one of the cool thing about the books is that even the worst bastards are understandable. You can see where they are coming from. They generally make sense as characters and the whole Lannister lot are excellent villains, even though you can see how they became that way. Still looking forward to seeing them all perish in dragon's fire though.
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: DM B May 16, 2011, 07:43:29 PM
I look forward to the Long Winter and the White Walkers claiming all...
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: X-Avanil/Aubrae Avan (Thorsten) May 16, 2011, 08:51:08 PM
I look forward to the Long Winter and the White Walkers claiming all...

That's just because you're Norwegian, and used to long winters. We Southrons prefer the summer, thank you very much.
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: DM B May 16, 2011, 08:55:12 PM
Yeah, if you were in charge there would have been a Wall of Flowery Things to keep evil out...
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: X-Tuornen/LF (Geir) May 16, 2011, 09:41:55 PM
Winter is comming  8)
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: X-Tornilen/SM (Alexander) May 16, 2011, 10:01:41 PM
Our dear "Sam the Slayer" seems to have put a kink in the White Walker's plans. It will be interesting to see though, what will happen to all the petty little conflicts once the white walkers and who knows what else comes down south.
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: DM B May 18, 2011, 03:18:48 PM
It's been so long since the last book came out that I'd forgotten about Sam. Don't speak well for his quality as a memorable character!
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: X-Avanil/Aubrae Avan (Thorsten) May 18, 2011, 04:51:25 PM
He's always annoyed me immensely, for some reason. And yes, not the most remarkable figure.
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: X-Mieres & SAS/AV (Mark) May 18, 2011, 04:59:20 PM
I feel I am missing out having not read the books and not getting HBO
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: X-Tornilen/SM (Alexander) May 18, 2011, 09:58:34 PM
I haven't been watching them on HBO though, that's what the internets are for. Just googling "A game of thrones" and "torrent" should do it, or just check out torrentz.eu
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: X-Tuornen/LF (Geir) May 19, 2011, 01:01:11 AM
I haven't been watching them on HBO though, that's what the internets are for. Just googling "A game of thrones" and "torrent" should do it, or just check out torrentz.eu

ssshhhh dont tell!
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: DM B May 19, 2011, 09:24:59 AM
I feel I am missing out having not read the books and not getting HBO

You're also missing out on:

1. Seeing a great series slowly (veeery slowly in fact) become watered down into piss...
2. Relatedly you'll also be annoyed when all the great established characters are killed of, only to be replaced with...Sam (this stuff happens when you suddenly feel an urge to write a gazillion more pages than initially intended).
3. Suffer through years and years of waiting for a book that never arrives...a book about the least-well-written female character this side of...Mary Sue (yeah Danerys, I'm looking at you, you actually work better in HBO than you ever did the in the books).

It's not that I don't like the series as a whole, cuz I like the first books and the non-Dothraki stuff...but lately...no.
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: X-Avanil/Aubrae Avan (Thorsten) May 19, 2011, 10:22:17 AM
I feel I am missing out having not read the books and not getting HBO

You're also missing out on:

1. Seeing a great series slowly (veeery slowly in fact) become watered down into piss...
2. Relatedly you'll also be annoyed when all the great established characters are killed of, only to be replaced with...Sam (this stuff happens when you suddenly feel an urge to write a gazillion more pages than initially intended).
3. Suffer through years and years of waiting for a book that never arrives...a book about the least-well-written female character this side of...Mary Sue (yeah Danerys, I'm looking at you, you actually work better in HBO than you ever did the in the books).

It's not that I don't like the series as a whole, cuz I like the first books and the non-Dothraki stuff...but lately...no.

Aye - I'm skipping the Dothraki-chapters next time I read through it. I just don't care enough about what happens outside Westeros - and I wont will either, until Ol' George actually starts combining the timelines and stories.
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: DM B May 19, 2011, 12:59:07 PM
Amen. I'm also skipping Sam. And stuff having to do with the vikings.
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: X-Tuornen/LF (Geir) May 19, 2011, 02:22:39 PM
compared to other tv-series I'm all happy. My hope was that is was better then what I fund when I got a few episodes of that seeker story. A few years ago I started on the books but this tv-series got past that point by episode 2 or 3. I used to read more, and I still read a bit, but I never got going on these books.
So, yes I’m happy. I get a nice tv show every week. That’s all I expect.

I too like the Westeros part best so far. But the lure of Dragons and glimps of the eggs are good fun too :-)

Most actors are much better the I expected in this show, if the Imp go it will be a loss, but I still have hope for a nice series.
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: DM B May 19, 2011, 03:06:56 PM
The Imp isn't going anytime soon...
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: X-Tornilen/SM (Alexander) May 23, 2011, 08:00:22 AM
Yeah, we're talking end of... 3rd book I think? No worries and the actor who plays the imp is great. He does it pretty much perfectly.

I dunno about the whole length thing. I think it was always intended to be a long epic - he has mentioned going up to 10 volumes in total. I can't say I agree about the characters personally - the Imp and Jon Snow are still in the game :) A favorite character of mine suffered a bit of a cliff hanger at the end of book 4... or a hanger anyway. I'm excited to see what happens to her.

As for the dragon queen being poorly written and mary-sue... eh. That's highly subjective. George R. R. Martin is no Patrick Rothfuss, Richard Morgan or Joe Abercrombie in terms of good characterisation, so... meh. As for Mary-Sue... She makes mistakes. One noteably HUGE mistake. She has flaws and while her road is in many ways paved for her... still. There are struggles. There are mistakes. There are sacrifices. As long as those are kept, to a large enough degree, then she's ok with me.

Of course, Bjørn and my taste in books differ in some points. I find Tolkien to ber exasperatingly boring and repetitive, R. Scott Bakker to be entertaining and gritty in a good way, etc. So this is clearly veering into subjective territory.
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: X-Alamie/CA (Marco) May 23, 2011, 11:49:39 AM
It's been so long since the last book came out that I'd forgotten about Sam. Don't speak well for his quality as a memorable character!

Sam is awkward I know...but he's not so terrible. In "A Feast for Crows" he handles well a lot of troubles...
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: X-Coeranys/WD (Greg) May 25, 2011, 06:31:30 AM
We are really enjoying this series so far... biggest complaint from my family so far is that they are not 2 hour episodes!

PS- Gotta love HBOGO!  You can preview next week's episode a week early!
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: X-Elinie/RiD (Niels) May 25, 2011, 10:00:28 PM
So... Someone gets crowned this weeks episode. Joy! :-)
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: DM B May 26, 2011, 02:20:43 PM
Coronation is only temporary...only death is forever!

(maybe)
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: X-Aerenwe/TS (Miloš) May 27, 2011, 09:35:13 AM
I haven't read the novels but I've played almost all the RPGs, board games, card games and game mods set in GoT world. I really like the tv series except for the fact that HBO could really control their urge to put excessive amounts of sex and nudity in their shows. If the content from the book has to be toned down in order to fit into a TV series, does something as unimportant as sexual and erotic content have to make it through in full?
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: X-Tuornen/LF (Geir) May 28, 2011, 01:21:36 AM
I haven't read the novels but I've played almost all the RPGs, board games, card games and game mods set in GoT world. I really like the tv series except for the fact that HBO could really control their urge to put excessive amounts of sex and nudity in their shows. If the content from the book has to be toned down in order to fit into a TV series, does something as unimportant as sexual and erotic content have to make it through in full?

Most I have seen have a purpose showing alien culture og low moral.
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: X-Tornilen/SM (Alexander) May 28, 2011, 11:03:49 PM
To be honest, I'm juvenile enough that I see it as a sort of bonus ^^
Though to be honest, some of it seems kinda gratuities.
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: X-Elinie/RiD (Niels) May 29, 2011, 10:58:27 PM
I could have done without the manly shave and happy ending. The rest is welcome.

At least it isn't baywatch like; "Here, look at that body, let's scroll up and down it so you can really get an eyeful!"

It is usually more; "Hey, boobs happen to be on the scene here, but pay attention to the dialogue because it actually is plot relevant!"
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: X-Tuornen/LF (Geir) May 29, 2011, 11:06:00 PM
:-) soon another episode ready, think I'll have a beer too
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: X-OIT/Narvelon Diem (Bo) June 08, 2011, 11:55:05 AM
I could have done without the manly shave and happy ending.
I could have done without that part as well. Particularly since they made it up for the series.