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: Who can build the prosperity of the provinces?
: X-Tuornen/LF (Geir) March 19, 2009, 09:44:35 PM
can one build the prosperity of a province even if one is not the regent?
: Re: Who can build the prosperity of the provinces?
: X-Tuornen/LF (Geir) March 19, 2009, 10:06:11 PM

Got this so thats that.

From: dm.bjorn@roe.twilightpeaks.net Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 21:51:21 +0100
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: Re: Who can build the prosperity of the provinces?
: X-Elinie/RiD (Niels) March 19, 2009, 10:54:47 PM
Are grants and festival effects temporary?
: Re: Who can build the prosperity of the provinces?
: DM B March 19, 2009, 10:59:10 PM
Yes.
: Re: Who can build the prosperity of the provinces?
: X-Medoere & RCS/KE (Thorsten) March 20, 2009, 09:09:10 AM
Unless it's party all year round!  :D

I'm guessing though, that if a regent allows others to focus on prosperity instead of himself, for too long, it will eventually cause the populace to focus more on those people? Can you get a regency loss in such a case?
: Re: Who can build the prosperity of the provinces?
: DM B March 20, 2009, 09:32:55 AM
Probably...
: Re: Who can build the prosperity of the provinces?
: X-Tuornen/LF (Geir) March 20, 2009, 04:19:06 PM
oh fuck....
: Re: Who can build the prosperity of the provinces?
: X-Roesone/ARR (Robert) March 20, 2009, 04:21:43 PM
But a temple preaches for the regent, not for itself.


You know "Blessed is Darien Avan, our lord blah blah blah"
: Re: Who can build the prosperity of the provinces?
: X-Elinie/RiD (Niels) March 20, 2009, 04:24:02 PM
oh fuck....

Hahaha!! - I got completely thrown by this one. You have been so IC all the time, even in your OOC posts, that seeing the cute little half-elf go "oh fuck..." is mind boggling.  ;D
: Re: Who can build the prosperity of the provinces?
: X-Tuornen/LF (Geir) March 20, 2009, 04:27:53 PM
But a temple preaches for the regent, not for itself.


You know "Blessed is Darien Avan, our lord blah blah blah"

Well, You are surly right in this, but be it as it is, it will not be relevant in Our case...  Follow the money...
: Re: Who can build the prosperity of the provinces?
: X-Tuornen/LF (Geir) March 20, 2009, 04:31:59 PM
oh fuck....

Hahaha!! - I got completely thrown by this one. You have been so IC all the time, even in your OOC posts, that seeing the cute little half-elf go "oh fuck..." is mind boggling.  ;D

Wha!? How rude to admit to notice a ladies minor transgression! Shame! 
: Re: Who can build the prosperity of the provinces?
: X-Endier & KoH/GdN (Joe) March 20, 2009, 05:10:40 PM
The "Oh Fuck" was justified, as we had finally hammered out every detail, and now have to frantically revise again.
: Re: Who can build the prosperity of the provinces?
: X-Mhoried/Droene Kavarra (Iasonas) March 20, 2009, 05:34:00 PM
oh fuck....

I have no option ... but to second that  :-[
: Re: Who can build the prosperity of the provinces?
: X-Roesone/ARR (Robert) March 20, 2009, 05:41:09 PM
A true ruler does not rely on temples to earn the love of his people! :D
: Re: Who can build the prosperity of the provinces?
: X-Elinie/RiD (Niels) March 20, 2009, 06:26:01 PM
A related question. The Chapel of the Saint, grants a +2 to Agitate, but you can only build it, if you are a temple domain.

Can a province ruler use the Chapel and get the bonus if he makes a treaty describing this with his local temple? - Or is it only the controlling temple that can claim the bonus?

What if the ruler is able to gain regency from temples?

What if the ruler owns a single temple holding? (well, probably a yes then, but for completeness its asked)
: Re: Who can build the prosperity of the provinces?
: DM B March 20, 2009, 08:21:24 PM
The OWNER of a Structure gets the benefits from it; no-one else.
: Re: Who can build the prosperity of the provinces?
: X-Elinie/RiD (Niels) March 20, 2009, 08:30:39 PM
Ok, can the Owner, who has no Temple holdings, but are able to gain regency from temples, use it?

And can another Build the Chapel and then grant the ownership to the temple?
: Re: Who can build the prosperity of the provinces?
: DM B March 20, 2009, 08:34:57 PM
Only temple domains can build and benefit from the Chapel.
: Re: Who can build the prosperity of the provinces?
: X-Elinie/RiD (Niels) March 20, 2009, 09:02:08 PM
Thanks!
: Re: Who can build the prosperity of the provinces?
: X-Haelyn's Aegis/RK (Andy) March 20, 2009, 10:03:46 PM
Hmm, we have 2 living saints I think - The Arch Duke of Osoerde and Her sneakiness.  If I build a chapel dedicated to St: Osoer in Achiese (the town is feeling as bit down at present) would he be a special case - assuming he isn't too embarrassed to go inside and be preached about?

In any case the answer is simple, the ruler publicly throws money and regency at the temples, loudly proclaiming himself their servant, so that their actions are seen as funded by him and any glory they gain reflects on him. He is their string right arm, servant who deals with temporal matters, etc.

Don't worry Iasonas, I promise not to abuse such goodies...  ::)
: Re: Who can build the prosperity of the provinces?
: X-DM Jon March 20, 2009, 11:22:23 PM
Osoer is only a living saint to some... He's not an actual sanctified saint.
: Re: Who can build the prosperity of the provinces?
: DM B March 21, 2009, 07:14:06 AM
Hmm, we have 2 living saints I think - The Arch Duke of Osoerde and Her sneakiness.  If I build a chapel dedicated to St: Osoer in Achiese (the town is feeling as bit down at present) would he be a special case - assuming he isn't too embarrassed to go inside and be preached about?

In any case the answer is simple, the ruler publicly throws money and regency at the temples, loudly proclaiming himself their servant, so that their actions are seen as funded by him and any glory they gain reflects on him. He is their string right arm, servant who deals with temporal matters, etc.

Don't worry Iasonas, I promise not to abuse such goodies...  ::)

If you build a chapel to Osoer you're a heretic :)
: Re: Who can build the prosperity of the provinces?
: X-Mhoried/Droene Kavarra (Iasonas) March 21, 2009, 07:53:59 AM
In any case the answer is simple, the ruler publicly throws money and regency at the temples, loudly proclaiming himself their servant, so that their actions are seen as funded by him and any glory they gain reflects on him. He is their string right arm, servant who deals with temporal matters, etc.

Don't worry Iasonas, I promise not to abuse such goodies...  ::)

I knew there was something fishy with HA!  :P

The description you gave on the function of the chapel of the saint actually makes a lot of sense. Thanks!
: Re: Who can build the prosperity of the provinces?
: X-Haelyn's Aegis/RK (Andy) March 21, 2009, 10:09:05 AM

I knew there was something fishy with HA!  :P

no, that's the ETN... keep us straight, she's the cutie, I'm the tin-can with a goblin fetish and bad temper.

And seriously, there is no risk of me building a chapel to St Osoer  :P  Well, not unless he dies heroically and nobly in the service of Haelyn, it's kind-of how us temples say 'thanks' while still benefiting ourselves...
: Re: Who can build the prosperity of the provinces?
: DM B March 21, 2009, 10:12:56 AM
Thread completely off-track. Closed.