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RoE General => The Herald (DM announcements) => : DM B September 12, 2010, 09:49:09 AM
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Preliminary version of the P&H uploaded.
Various stuff to be added:
- variable income
- Avanil + the West Coast
- minor edits
- whatever you report in
I'll try to get some more work in on it tomorrow. Resuming weekend activities now.
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Feedback go into this thread.
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It is probably safe to assume WO is NOT sending BBel 4 GB... ;)
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Missing: SASI ruled up trade holding in Braeme.
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B, I think you may have forgotten to update 'stability'.
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B, I think you may have forgotten to update 'stability'.
I know. I just forgot to mention it my to-do list.
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Missing: SASI ruled up trade holding in Braeme.
Ah yes; memory isn't too good these days!
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It is probably safe to assume WO is NOT sending BBel 4 GB... ;)
Others however that did expect GB from WO did not receive them ::)
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The bless bonuses to prosperity in Thoralinar and Tornilen, both in Tornilen, do not seem to be included. Prosperity should be one higher in both provinces.
Also, stability increase, but it looks like you are on to that.
Thanks for the P&H, now the game starts in earnest :D
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The bless bonuses to prosperity in Thoralinar and Tornilen, both in Tornilen, do not seem to be included. Prosperity should be one higher in both provinces.
Also, stability increase, but it looks like you are on to that.
Thanks for the P&H, now the game starts in earnest :D
Prosperity is down 2 steps. -3 from Demagogue ending and +1 for Agitate. Should only be -1 loss due to Bless effect kicking in. Will amend.
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BL Strength for Bellamie / South Hold should be increase by 5, to 42.
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The overview page for the West Coast does not mention Hermedhie as a regent with holdings, while the Brosengae page lists her holdings in that (west coast) realm.
And I am assuming we'll keep the abbreviation He for my regent for ease of use? (Which is, of course, fine by me). Or will this change to a new abbreviation?
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The overview page for the West Coast does not mention Hermedhie as a regent with holdings, while the Brosengae page lists her holdings in that (west coast) realm.
And I am assuming we'll keep the abbreviation He for my regent for ease of use? (Which is, of course, fine by me). Or will this change to a new abbreviation?
It will be changed to SW - Sea Witch.
All you holdings are gathered on the South Coast sheet, this is you main area of operations.
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IN the Endier sheet there's a level 4 temple holding by NOT, that should be OIT I assume.
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IN the Endier sheet there's a level 4 temple holding by NOT, that should be OIT I assume.
You assume correctly. The NOT has merged with the OIT and all is well.
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B, I think you may have forgotten to update 'stability'.
Any particular domains that I should take under consideration?
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v2.3 is out
Continue to post errata/questions here.
I will now concentrate on new domain descriptions and interactive actions.
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Errrr.... I just lost 20GB's?
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Errrr.... I just lost 20GB's?
You did? Where is the error?
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My variable income roll shifted from 13 to 8 and wiped 20Gb off my income.
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Unless my father intends to pull a Raenech on us all, I'd appreciate if his holdings in the Imperial City revert to my control :P
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My variable income roll shifted from 13 to 8 and wiped 20Gb off my income.
v2.1 had variable income rolls not updated. v2.3 has.
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Unless my father intends to pull a Raenech on us all, I'd appreciate if his holdings in the Imperial City revert to my control :P
Same goes for Brosengae.
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v3.1 uploaded
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There appears, quite mysteriously, ETN temple in Aerele, Diemed. MC is quite sure she didn't ordered it. Maybe a courtesy of OIT in celebration of their reunification? ;)
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There appears, quite mysteriously, ETN temple in Aerele, Diemed. MC is quite sure she didn't ordered it. Maybe a courtesy of OIT in celebration of their reunification? ;)
An oversight I'm sure, but don't worry, the OIT will be happy to remove it for you. (http://www.google.dk/imgres?imgurl=http://blog.solutionset.com/wpmu/files/2009/02/angrymobl.jpg&imgrefurl=http://blog.solutionset.com/wpmu/category/creative-design/&usg=__Miy50gfsYsG5KMcYPVRqcsxELPg=&h=302&w=416&sz=40&hl=da&start=22&zoom=1&tbnid=M5wzZZRH-vJvTM:&tbnh=141&tbnw=185&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dtorches%2Band%2Bpitchforks%26um%3D1%26hl%3Dda%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26hs%3DENZ%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:da:official%26biw%3D896%26bih%3D468%26tbs%3Disch:10%2C1111&um=1&itbs=1&iact=rc&dur=173&ei=ad2QTK_EI8-EswbgxqC2AQ&oei=Ft2QTMjnFIjFswaD5Lm2AQ&esq=13&page=4&ndsp=8&ved=1t:429,r:6,s:22&tx=124&ty=84&biw=896&bih=468)
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There appears, quite mysteriously, ETN temple in Aerele, Diemed. MC is quite sure she didn't ordered it. Maybe a courtesy of OIT in celebration of their reunification? ;)
"Random" event.
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On the 'Eastern Marches' summary page:
The Count of Bhalaene is actually a Marquessate, and is led by a Marquis.
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On the 'Eastern Marches' summary page:
The Count of Bhalaene is actually a Marquessate, and is led by a Marquis.
Is he? He's the Count of Bhalaene - the title of Marquis comes from Ghoere, does it not?
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Nope, during our negotiations, it was made a Marquessate. It is a level 7 province with the attributes of being a "Trade Center" and a "Kingdom Capital"; it seemed fitting to make it a marquessate.
Additionally, I couldn't elevate Isilviere to a Baron (all sorts of reasons for that), but I could make him a Marquis in Osoerde and therefore he is only a ceremonial step below the Barons/Baronesses.
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If Osoeriene is prosperity 'defiant', I don't think it is suppose to generate RP for its ruler.
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Hmm, unless there is still an ongoing event there, in Osoeriene, shouldn't they stay at the same level they were last turn? - I successfully added a +1 temporary prosperity modifier in my DO.
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Probably not. Prosperity is affected by a ton of thing, including very importantly, the prosperity level itself. Temporary prosperity bonuses are applied last (after prosperity is adjusted for actions, events, and taxes).
Defiant has -2 prosperity modifier.
So, It started at Defiant (2).
Fair Taxes has a modifier of 0 (no effect on prosperity).
Defiant prosperity has a -2 modifier (0).
Therefore, the province is reduced to Rebellion (0), but the temporary bonus raises it 1 level and bless raised it 1 level. Putting it back at defiant...temporarily anyways.
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Probably not. Prosperity is affected by a ton of thing, including very importantly, the prosperity level itself. Temporary prosperity bonuses are applied last (after prosperity is adjusted for actions, events, and taxes).
Defiant has -2 prosperity modifier.
So, It started at Defiant (2).
Fair Taxes has a modifier of 0 (no effect on prosperity).
Defiant prosperity has a -2 modifier (0).
Therefore, the province is reduced to Rebellion (0), but the temporary bonus raises it 1 level and bless raised it 1 level. Putting it back at defiant...temporarily anyways.
So, you agree, its set one level too low. - The tax being still at Fair has to do with the prior ruler not having the means to lower it while this is all going on. If it were to me, which it now is, the tax is going down. Down, down, down.
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NEW UPDATE AVAILABLE
P&H v3.2
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CA's law holding in Laraeth shuold be 2 instead of 1, since the success of rule holding action in turn #67
also the agitate action was for Sorelies not, as listed, for Soutmoor.
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WIT still missing some details about vassals tributes. And WIT + CJS variable income rolls marked in red, dunno what that means ::)
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v3.4 uploaded
http://roe.twilightpeaks.net/downloads/ (http://roe.twilightpeaks.net/downloads/)
a. Note that CA law has been increased to 2 (from 1) in Laraeth.
b. Note that there is no longer a +1 Agitate in Soutmoor and that the province's prosperity has been changed to unsteady (from guarded).
c. Note that there is now a +1 Agitate in Sorelies and that the province's prosperity has been changed to average (from guarded).
d. Note that PSN vassalage/tribute to WIT is listed as 2RP/0GB.
e. Note that ToF vassalage/tribute to WIT is listed as 2RP/0GB.
f. Note that various grants to CoT have been added.
Other editing, too.
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Sorry about the delay Bjorn but:
Shieldhaven - has the level increased? It should be 6+1 (bless) = 7 not 7+1 = 8 surely?
March of Dhalsiel - did Constantine pick up the ancestral lands of Kavarra too? The Kavarra family looks gone..
Ruorven - same issue as Shieldhaven, did you do a general population update or has the bless been double-counted?
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Sorry about the delay Bjorn but:
Shieldhaven - has the level increased? It should be 6+1 (bless) = 7 not 7+1 = 8 surely?
March of Dhalsiel - did Constantine pick up the ancestral lands of Kavarra too? The Kavarra family looks gone..
Ruorven - same issue as Shieldhaven, did you do a general population update or has the bless been double-counted?
There have been numerous province level upgrades. This has been commented on before.
Kavarra: Constantine has been invested by Land's Choice- that doesn't mean he's legally entitled to the holdings. I have a mail thread with the Mhor regarding this - but as with so many other things it has not been resolved due to Vik's inactivity.
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Bayside and Portage in Northern Taeghas have issues with total temple holdings exceeding the province level.
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Quick question - my DO mentioned Tornilen's stability increasing from +2 to +3. Now the P&H lists it as +2... does that mean the increase has been "recalled"?
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Quick question - my DO mentioned Tornilen's stability increasing from +2 to +3. Now the P&H lists it as +2... does that mean the increase has been "recalled"?
It means I'm not very good at paying attention to details...
It should be +3
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Bayside and Portage in Northern Taeghas have issues with total temple holdings exceeding the province level.
I'll look into it; outside the play area through, so not high on my list.