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Conscripts — Levy & Leidang
Talinie & NIT/TD (Linde):
--- Quote from: Regent Guide v 2.20 ---Naval levies (leidang)
Coastal provinces (not including river provinces) have the ability to raise naval levies. This works in a similar fashion to calling up the land-based levy (prosperity loss, negative growth etc.), except that each time the naval levy is called one trade holding level is destroyed (you cannot call the levy if there are no trade holding left).
The first time the levy is called you get a medium warship/merchantman (Skilled) suitable to the region/province. The next time the levy is called you get a lesser (light) type of vessel (Skilled). After that there are more of the same (but Green).
Example: In Anuire you will typically get caravels or more rarely galleys the first time and after that you get coasters or (more rarely) galliots.
Naval levies suffer a -2 penalty to Attack, Defense, and Seaworthiness to account for their lack of weapons and their lighter civilian crews.
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As you can see prosperity loss is in the current rules as is the standard growth loss.
It would make sense for guilds to put up a defensive pool to counter leidang if they think it will be called against their will.
And it would make sense if DDC was higher than 5 if the landed ruler doesn't have an agreement with the trade holder who will loose a level.
Hardiness from guild and trade would be appropriate, but boosting the DDC to up to 9 is not enough.
I think base leidang need to be DDC 10, and then the guild/trade holdings can grant advantage/hardiness to the action pushing the DDC as low as DDC 6 or as high as DDC 14 for the first time +5 per extra leidang, just as raise levy.
Comments?
X-CJS/Ruormad Coumain (Tristan):
IMO.
A naval levy should not be able to raise military ships. If a naval levy exists it should only allow the raising (seizure) of ships suitable for troop transport/logistics use.
The leidang should be garrison/reserve ships maintained by local nobility (i.e law/manor holders) in provinces that meet the criteria (sea faring culture & coastal), probably with some role play aspects indicating the local nobility pay lower taxes, etc in return for maintaining a naval reserve.
X-Points East:
OoC:
Here follows a quote from an italicised passage in Chapter 2 of Regent Guide v.3.5 Draft 2.25: "Law and trade holdings are never able to call out the levy."
Ruideside/OM (RP):
OK, and how is that relevant?
Ohlaak (Alan):
It isn't common for the domain ruler (liege) of a landed realm to control a majority of manors. This means that unless he has the backing of his lords and ladies, the domain ruler won't be able to call out the levy.
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