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: P&H #67 Uploaded/Feedback thread
: DM B April 09, 2010, 01:15:27 PM
I've uploaded v3.1

I lacks several minor NPC actions, but it should contain all PC actions.

Report errors/omissions HERE.
: Re: P&H #67 Uploaded/Feedback thread
: X-Ilien & PCE/GeM (Linde) April 09, 2010, 01:32:01 PM
Hey, I like the new look ^_^

Long term grants are not calculated into total income... Atleast not for Ilien
: Re: P&H #67 Uploaded/Feedback thread
: DM B April 09, 2010, 01:43:19 PM
I just noticed.

Brandon - What is the plan behind the new calculation scheme? Separating collection from other income is probably a good idea, but if so there really should be a column that sums everything.
: Re: P&H #67 Uploaded/Feedback thread
: DM B April 09, 2010, 01:45:51 PM
Note: I'll rearrange the columns in the region sheets so that they look more like they used to; this is confusing the poor DM...
: Re: P&H #67 Uploaded/Feedback thread
: X-ETN/Maire Cwyllmie (Libor) April 09, 2010, 02:49:10 PM
Caelcorwynn is still lvl 3 province. Is that intended? One would say that at least the exodus of refugees would harm the province a bit (even if there was no massacre after that).
: Re: P&H #67 Uploaded/Feedback thread
: X-Tornilen/SM (Alexander) April 09, 2010, 03:00:46 PM
Something I am not sure about.

Does the bonus from a festival stack with the bonuses from Demagogue / Bless? If it does, the prosperity in Tornilen needs to be one higher.

Is it on purpose that the Bloodline for Marya now reads "Azrai"? It used to read "Vorynn"...

And nice job fixing the borked income for me, no more free gb's for me ;) (or fractions thereof)
: Re: P&H #67 Uploaded/Feedback thread
: X-Ilien & PCE/GeM (Linde) April 09, 2010, 03:16:52 PM

Is it on purpose that the Bloodline for Marya now reads "Azrai"? It used to read "Vorynn"...


Yes... that is perfectly in order... As you can see you can now keep SASI company. They have tainted evil blood too... And also on occasion does something I dont like :P
: Re: P&H #67 Uploaded/Feedback thread
: DM B April 09, 2010, 03:18:51 PM
Bloodline derivations in GREEN were added/altered by Brandon. No idea why.
: Re: P&H #67 Uploaded/Feedback thread
: DM B April 09, 2010, 03:30:44 PM
Bloodline derivations in GREEN were added/altered by Brandon. No idea why.

OK I see what happened. He updated the entries where he could based on a semi-outdated document (hailing back to the RoE I days). I'll change the relevant derivations for v 3.2+
: Re: P&H #67 Uploaded/Feedback thread
: X-Osoerde (Alan) April 09, 2010, 10:32:14 PM
Bjorn, the temp prosperity bonus from blessings didn't seem to adjust prosperity correctly.

Moriel should probably be Steady - Guarded, + Agitate + Bless - Heavy Taxes + Law Adjustment = Steady.
: Re: P&H #67 Uploaded/Feedback thread
: DM B April 09, 2010, 10:57:13 PM
Bjorn, the temp prosperity bonus from blessings didn't seem to adjust prosperity correctly.

Moriel should probably be Steady - Guarded, + Agitate + Bless - Heavy Taxes + Law Adjustment = Steady.

Isn't there a net increase of 1 since last turn? Guarded to Average?

Law cancels taxes.
Bless in effect last turn and this turn
Thus only the Agitate come into play...
: Re: P&H #67 Uploaded/Feedback thread
: X-Points East April 09, 2010, 11:04:55 PM

OoC:

Ilien worksheet:  J12 could be adjusted.
Tornilen worksheet:  P25 could be adjusted.
Osoerde worksheet:  P73 could be adjusted.

Morcosoer worksheet:  PETG guild (0) could be in Shattered Hills.
Osoerde worksheet:  PETG guild (0) could be in Moergen.

: Re: P&H #67 Uploaded/Feedback thread
: X-LPA/Gaerred Khaiarén (Gray) April 10, 2010, 05:28:09 AM
Mholien is under the effects of Shadow Ward.  It is suppose to get a "+1 loyalty modifier", but I am not sure if that stacks with or is different from the Bless the Holy Lands effects/bonus.
: Re: P&H #67 Uploaded/Feedback thread
: DM B April 10, 2010, 06:54:14 AM
Mholien is under the effects of Shadow Ward.  It is suppose to get a "+1 loyalty modifier", but I am not sure if that stacks with or is different from the Bless the Holy Lands effects/bonus.

Shadow Ward is not a spell that will appear in the P&H anymore.
: Re: P&H #67 Uploaded/Feedback thread
: X-MOC/Leman States (Even) April 11, 2010, 02:06:04 PM
MOC holding update in Conalier missing.
: Re: P&H #67 Uploaded/Feedback thread
: X-IHH/Wallac Isilviere (Kasper) April 11, 2010, 08:02:14 PM
Osoerdes province Tshaliese is lvl 5 right? But it has a total of 6 levels of temple holdings. HA 3, MOC 2 & LPA 1 (bless holding on LPA's so perhaps something with a conversion spell conflict of some sorts?)

turn 65 had HA 3, MOC 1 & LPA 1

turn 66 had HA 3, MOC 2 & LPA 0 (both MOC & LPA marked with yellow)

turn 67 have HA 3, MOC 2 & LPA 1 (with bless holding on LPA)
: Re: P&H #67 Uploaded/Feedback thread
: X-MOC/Leman States (Even) April 11, 2010, 08:56:29 PM
Osoerdes province Tshaliese is lvl 5 right? But it has a total of 6 levels of temple holdings. HA 3, MOC 2 & LPA 1 (bless holding on LPA's so perhaps something with a conversion spell conflict of some sorts?)

turn 65 had HA 3, MOC 1 & LPA 1

turn 66 had HA 3, MOC 2 & LPA 0 (both MOC & LPA marked with yellow)

turn 67 have HA 3, MOC 2 & LPA 1 (with bless holding on LPA)

I think you answered your own question. Blessings temporarily increase the level of a holdings, just as with a province. (BTW, the province is Achiese. Tshaliese is just the main settlement there.)
: Re: P&H #67 Uploaded/Feedback thread
: X-IHH/Wallac Isilviere (Kasper) April 11, 2010, 10:09:08 PM
But whats the point in blessing a lvl 0 holding?
: Re: P&H #67 Uploaded/Feedback thread
: X-Haelyn's Aegis/RK (Andy) April 12, 2010, 12:01:41 AM
Bless won't increase the holding level, but a bless the sacred holding will - with the added bonus of protecting the temple from any attempt to contest it.
: Re: P&H #67 Uploaded/Feedback thread
: DM B April 12, 2010, 07:54:30 AM
And protects against other harmful spells of 2nd lvl or lower...
: Re: P&H #67 Uploaded/Feedback thread
: DM B April 12, 2010, 08:56:42 AM
MOC holding update in Conalier missing.

Fixed.
: Re: P&H #67 Uploaded/Feedback thread
: X-ETN/Maire Cwyllmie (Libor) April 12, 2010, 11:59:48 AM
Seasonal grant of 1GB from Bellam to ETN is missing (Bobby wrote it should be there).
: Re: P&H #67 Uploaded/Feedback thread
: DM B April 12, 2010, 12:07:38 PM
Seasonal grant of 1GB from Bellam to ETN is missing (Bobby wrote it should be there).

OK. I'll make a separate sticky thread where people can ask to have their indefinite grants added.
: Re: P&H #67 Uploaded/Feedback thread
: DM B April 13, 2010, 10:29:29 AM
v 3.3 added. Might need a few tweaks but it should be mostly up to date in play areas.

: Re: P&H #67 Uploaded/Feedback thread
: X-Elinie/RiD (Niels) April 13, 2010, 10:42:29 AM
Will you make the thread about indefinite grants or should we just spawn one?  :)
: Re: P&H #67 Uploaded/Feedback thread
: DM B April 13, 2010, 01:12:40 PM

OoC:

Ilien worksheet:  J12 could be adjusted.
Tornilen worksheet:  P25 could be adjusted.
Osoerde worksheet:  P73 could be adjusted.

Morcosoer worksheet:  PETG guild (0) could be in Shattered Hills.
Osoerde worksheet:  PETG guild (0) could be in Moergen.



Added
: Re: P&H #67 Uploaded/Feedback thread
: X-Points East April 14, 2010, 05:15:29 AM

OoC:

Cell G7 in the Medoere worksheet could be changed from "5" to "=5+LOOKUP(G8;$Spells.A$2:A$6;$Spells.B$2:B$6)".

: Re: P&H #67 Uploaded/Feedback thread
: X-Haelyn's Aegis/RK (Andy) April 15, 2010, 12:27:24 AM
The goblin temple in Peril Trees yet lives, did I miss some of the green suckers?  Annihililating that temple was the key reason for the over-kill approach to peacekeeping.
: Re: P&H #67 Uploaded/Feedback thread
: X-Points East April 15, 2010, 01:09:05 AM

The goblin temple in Peril Trees yet lives, did I miss some of the green suckers?  Annihililating that temple was the key reason for the over-kill approach to peacekeeping.

OoC:

Was the GTr Temple (0) successfully contested?

: Re: P&H #67 Uploaded/Feedback thread
: X-Haelyn's Aegis/RK (Andy) April 16, 2010, 11:07:11 PM

The goblin temple in Peril Trees yet lives, did I miss some of the green suckers?  Annihililating that temple was the key reason for the over-kill approach to peacekeeping.

OoC:

Was the GTr Temple (0) successfully contested?


I pillaged it with well north of a thousand troops, troops from an ally were also in the region killing everything grey or green, a contest action seemed redundant.
: Re: P&H #67 Uploaded/Feedback thread
: DM B April 18, 2010, 08:23:48 PM
Ah well, pillaging only reduces a holding to lvl 0...it doesn't normally destroy it.
: Re: P&H #67 Uploaded/Feedback thread
: X-Haelyn's Aegis/RK (Andy) April 19, 2010, 10:59:06 PM
OK, so I need to create a holding of my own, then contest theirs?  This may take longer than I expected...
: Re: P&H #67 Uploaded/Feedback thread
: X-ETN/Maire Cwyllmie (Libor) April 19, 2010, 11:26:41 PM
OK, so I need to create a holding of my own, then contest theirs?  This may take longer than I expected...

Occupying military units can work as law holding.
: Re: P&H #67 Uploaded/Feedback thread
: DM B April 20, 2010, 07:15:42 AM
OK, so I need to create a holding of my own, then contest theirs?  This may take longer than I expected...

Occupying military units can work as law holding.

What Maire said.
: Re: P&H #67 Uploaded/Feedback thread
: X-ETN/Maire Cwyllmie (Libor) April 20, 2010, 10:09:03 PM
I like the new province name "Braobhe" :)
Could also serve as a fitting name for its new master  ;D
: Re: P&H #67 Uploaded/Feedback thread
: DM B April 20, 2010, 11:06:07 PM
No province has changed name.
: Re: P&H #67 Uploaded/Feedback thread
: X-ETN/Maire Cwyllmie (Libor) April 21, 2010, 02:28:57 PM
Province, that was called "Rhuobhe", reads "Braobhe" in P&H now. If not intentional, then it is probably a typo. But good one :)
: Re: P&H #67 Uploaded/Feedback thread
: X-Osoerde (Alan) April 21, 2010, 06:56:04 PM
That was probably an errant "Find & Replace"
: Re: P&H #67 Uploaded/Feedback thread
: DM B April 22, 2010, 12:05:21 PM
Keep to the topic. OOC posts will be deleted. They belong in the Great Beyond.
: Re: P&H #67 Uploaded/Feedback thread
: X-Elinie/RiD (Niels) April 23, 2010, 01:12:35 AM
There is an error on the Eastern Marches page. The columns Incoming and Outgoing grants seem to have been switched around compared with the other overview pages.

Incoming grants are currently deducted from income instead of added, and the opposite for outgoing ones.
: Re: P&H #67 Uploaded/Feedback thread
: DM B April 26, 2010, 06:15:04 PM
Minor update v 3.4 uploaded.