Author Topic: Turn #62  (Read 15958 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline X-Bellam & BC/TB (Bobby)

  • Former players
  • Regent
  • *****
  • Posts: 639
  • Regency: 33
Re: Turn #62
« Reply #15 on: March 23, 2009, 11:30:08 AM »
I've just added a section at the bottom of the DO, after the Notes section, marked Diplomatic Terms.

Offline DM B

  • Green Knight
  • Deity
  • Emperor
  • *
  • Posts: 5.210
  • Regency: 51
  • Gender: Male
    • Twilightpeaks.net - Hone of Ruins of Empire
Re: Turn #62
« Reply #16 on: March 23, 2009, 06:58:48 PM »
Good man
DM Bjørn

Offline X-Endier & KoH/GdN (Joe)

  • Former players
  • Scion
  • ***
  • Posts: 125
  • Regency: 7
  • Gender: Male
  • Guy de Nichaleir, Grand-Maester and Count
Re: Turn #62
« Reply #17 on: March 23, 2009, 08:12:24 PM »
I merged my action and DM notes column to get more value out of the treaties, although I suppose it would have been easier to append at bottom...
Guy de Nichaleir, Grand-Maester of the Knights of Haelyn, Count of Endier, the Red Knight

Offline X-Ghieste & HOT/GH (Matt)

  • Former players
  • Regent
  • *****
  • Posts: 717
  • Regency: 38
  • Gender: Male
  • Duke Ghorien Hiriele of Ghieste, Guilder of H/OT
Re: Turn #62
« Reply #18 on: March 23, 2009, 09:30:08 PM »
Mine went into the action details below the action table. Seemed to work okay. Also used different font for them to differentiate.
His Grace Ghorien Hiriele,
Duke of Ghieste,
Grand-Maester of the Highland/Overland Traders,
Viscount of Whyrthe.
Down Right Evil Bastard!

Offline X-Elinie/RiD (Niels)

  • Former players
  • Regent
  • *****
  • Posts: 948
  • Regency: 19
  • Gender: Male
  • Formerly Star of the East
Re: Turn #62
« Reply #19 on: March 23, 2009, 10:13:17 PM »
Created new segment at the very bottom, for Treaties, To Be Ratified and Treaties, Active. Then made links between the treaty in the bottom and the corresponding action point in the list above.

This was doable by taking the Headline 3 and using inside the cell, this creates an anchor that can be linked to within the document. (I didn't know, so if it helps anyone else... :) )

Shaved 17 pages right off. Now its only 40!  :o
Formerly: His Grace, Patriarch Rashid ibn Daouta, Last Imperial Duke of the Eastern Marches, Duke of Elinie, Master of Sutren Hills, Holy Paladin of Avanalae, Light of Reason.

Offline X-Mhoried/Droene Kavarra (Iasonas)

  • Former players
  • Scion
  • ***
  • Posts: 142
  • Regency: 3
  • Gender: Male
  • The Mhor, Droene Kavarra
Re: Turn #62
« Reply #20 on: March 23, 2009, 10:15:48 PM »
Mine is just 18 pages total. Which is quite a feat  ???

Needless to say, I will keep it simpler next time. Lesson learned ;)
Droene Kavarra.
The Mhor.
The land is inherited,
The respect is earned.

Offline X-Alamie (Alex)

  • Former players
  • Hero
  • **
  • Posts: 90
  • Regency: 4
  • Carilon Alam, Archduke of Alamie
Re: Turn #62
« Reply #21 on: March 23, 2009, 10:18:25 PM »
Created new segment at the very bottom, for Treaties, To Be Ratified and Treaties, Active. Then made links between the treaty in the bottom and the corresponding action point in the list above.

This was doable by taking the Headline 3 and using inside the cell, this creates an anchor that can be linked to within the document. (I didn't know, so if it helps anyone else... :) )

Shaved 17 pages right off. Now its only 40!  :o


Keep going on like this for two more turns, and you'll have a book to ship to an editor... :D

Offline X-Haelyn's Aegis/RK (Andy)

  • Former players
  • Regent
  • *****
  • Posts: 913
  • Regency: 42
  • Gender: Male
Re: Turn #62
« Reply #22 on: March 23, 2009, 10:56:38 PM »
I hope that's because there is a loooong block of very narrow (column-wise) treaty entries. It IS possible to include treaties below the boxes instead...

Yup, it is. I might switch to embedded documents or something, or maybe internal linking...

Not sure if it helps Bjorn/Jon, but I put a 3 part number x-ref in each 'action cell' - so the table cell just says what action, which province/realm, DDC - all the fluff is underneath.

Sigh, I still hit 24 though.  At least it should be easily skimmed - I may try cutting down the court and free action fluff, that's 9-10 actions none of which is very important - looking at it I put a page and a half on moving troops on a DC 5 which is possibly excessive...  I may cut out sections I don't use (ley lines, navy, holdings, other notes) that would cut it down a bit...

I'd personally like to put all actions at the top, at present regent+free+court+looey actions are all split up - a single table in order should reduce volume slightly...

I decided against pasting in 'Walking the Hills' which was my real introduction for Captain Raenwe - who I try and hire this season (modified DC 20, wish me luck) - at probably 10 pages or so I thought I might suffer divine vengeance so I just stuck in his NPC intro.
Robhan Khaiarén
High Marshal of Haelyn's Aegis
Work hard, walk with honour, be justly rewarded

Offline DM B

  • Green Knight
  • Deity
  • Emperor
  • *
  • Posts: 5.210
  • Regency: 51
  • Gender: Male
    • Twilightpeaks.net - Hone of Ruins of Empire
Re: Turn #62
« Reply #23 on: March 24, 2009, 09:22:52 AM »
It help; very easy to read.
DM Bjørn

Offline X-Medoere & RCS/KE (Thorsten)

  • Former players
  • Regent
  • *****
  • Posts: 950
  • Regency: 22
Re: Turn #62
« Reply #24 on: March 24, 2009, 09:24:57 AM »
If it helps, I wouldn't mind doing the same... Provided I can learn, what to do  ;)
Andy, could you give an example (not from your DO) of what you're talking about?

Offline X-Haelyn's Aegis/RK (Andy)

  • Former players
  • Regent
  • *****
  • Posts: 913
  • Regency: 42
  • Gender: Male
Re: Turn #62
« Reply #25 on: March 24, 2009, 09:28:44 AM »
Well, given that 2 of my actions are well known anyway S&C, Vampires, I'm happy to mail you the relevant chunk of my DO as OOC knowledge - frankly #3 will be visible too so its hardly secret.  Remind me this evening if I haven't sent it over.

Edit:
Well, I cut out the juicy stuff, lots of little '<snip>' marks all over, but hopefully my DO should be coming over - my mail server had a fit though so let me know if it failed.
« Last Edit: March 26, 2009, 12:22:17 AM by Haelyn's Aegis/RK (Andy) »
Robhan Khaiarén
High Marshal of Haelyn's Aegis
Work hard, walk with honour, be justly rewarded

Offline X-Ghieste & HOT/GH (Matt)

  • Former players
  • Regent
  • *****
  • Posts: 717
  • Regency: 38
  • Gender: Male
  • Duke Ghorien Hiriele of Ghieste, Guilder of H/OT
Re: Turn #62
« Reply #26 on: March 26, 2009, 10:00:11 AM »
I'd also appreciate a copy of the new improved DO!

Mine has pretty graphics in it but I doubt they actually help the DM's, just makes me feel better about the work I am producing :)
His Grace Ghorien Hiriele,
Duke of Ghieste,
Grand-Maester of the Highland/Overland Traders,
Viscount of Whyrthe.
Down Right Evil Bastard!

Offline X-Alamie (Alex)

  • Former players
  • Hero
  • **
  • Posts: 90
  • Regency: 4
  • Carilon Alam, Archduke of Alamie
Re: Turn #62
« Reply #27 on: March 26, 2009, 07:39:04 PM »
Ok, if anybody is showcasing its DO, I did an Excel version for T62. I am curious to read whether the DMs find it handy or not.
At least as a player it was very handy :)

Offline X-Elinie/RiD (Niels)

  • Former players
  • Regent
  • *****
  • Posts: 948
  • Regency: 19
  • Gender: Male
  • Formerly Star of the East
Re: Turn #62
« Reply #28 on: March 26, 2009, 08:05:20 PM »
Ok, if anybody is showcasing its DO, I did an Excel version for T62. I am curious to read whether the DMs find it handy or not.
At least as a player it was very handy :)

I am addicted to Excel... If DMs approve, I'm in teh market for your version.  :)
Formerly: His Grace, Patriarch Rashid ibn Daouta, Last Imperial Duke of the Eastern Marches, Duke of Elinie, Master of Sutren Hills, Holy Paladin of Avanalae, Light of Reason.

Offline X-Mhoried/Droene Kavarra (Iasonas)

  • Former players
  • Scion
  • ***
  • Posts: 142
  • Regency: 3
  • Gender: Male
  • The Mhor, Droene Kavarra
Re: Turn #62
« Reply #29 on: March 26, 2009, 08:25:25 PM »
I also did an excel version for T62, but it has a lot of bugs (especially considering the massive information found in the Regents' Handbook that has to be incorporated). I used it for reference, however if the DMs allow it, I will be able to produce a working copy for everyone next week.
Droene Kavarra.
The Mhor.
The land is inherited,
The respect is earned.