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RoE Development => Atlas of Aebrynis => : DM B November 20, 2008, 12:47:24 PM
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OK, this one leaves something to be desired. I hope Robert will take some time updating it. I have to speed on to the next one; so I'm concentrating on assets and agendas.
Uploaded.
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A question about the Isilvieres. Its says in the PS that the old Baron (meaning Teried, I assume) promoted them to the rank of margraves. Is that your addition and thus canon for RoE II or is it a leftover from RoE I? PS Roesone does list them as loyal vassals of Roesone so it makes/made sense at the time. I was told that the Isilvieres were evicted from Roesone on account of some treachery, only to be retaken when Roesone acquired Ghoeran provinces after the war.
Basically, if what I mentioned is correct, they owe their noble title to Roesone.. sweet :)
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A question about the Isilvieres. Its says in the PS that the old Baron (meaning Teried, I assume) promoted them to the rank of margraves. Is that your addition and thus canon for RoE II or is it a leftover from RoE I? PS Roesone does list them as loyal vassals of Roesone so it makes/made sense at the time. I was told that the Isilvieres were evicted from Roesone on account of some treachery, only to be retaken when Roesone acquired Ghoeran provinces after the war.
Basically, if what I mentioned is correct, they owe their noble title to Roesone.. sweet :)
Teried made them Margraves (with special jurisdiction over the northern three provinces) - at the expense of House Bellamie (who were Margraves of the North until they were implicated in yet another plot).
Then House Isilviere was stripped of all rank following their trafficking with the enemy during the war (a lot of the nobles got kicked around then). That was when Marlae abdicated in favor of ARR. Leaving no margraves in Roesone, only counts.
The Isilvieres then managed to marry into a Ghoeran house, and ended up as the margraves of Bheline and Danaroene.
Makes sense?
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Yup, thanks. I'm slowly working on updating the PS and I needed to sort this out first :) So, they kept their titles after the war.... which means that they pledged their lands of Bheline and Danaroene to Roesone... Exquisite :)
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Those provinces were turned over to Roesone as part of the peace treaty and dissolution of Kingdom of Ghoere.
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Of course, but the mere fact that the Isilvieres are still there means that they had to bend knee and accept that they hold Bheline and Danaroene from the crown of Roesone. That's how it works in feudal societies or what an investiture spell does in BR ;)
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Junior members of the family replacing the old ones? Cousins who 'saw the light' and re-pledged loyalty to their true ruler - or the same corrupt old bunch who so easily forgot their vows of loyalty before...
Not that nobles are anything like as noble and honourable as they like to say anyway...
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I'd say the same old bunch (since its the "new generation" that messed up everything), but now that they're "back in" the system they're subject to confiscation in case of disloyalty ;)
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I will enhance the PS of Roesone once I'm done with the rest of the domains.
I think I had a little mental lapse when I did it, and the quality of the work isn't in line with the imporatnce of the domain.
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I was giving it some thought but I've had new chapters of my personal drama play out so I got kind of sidetracked :(
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I was giving it some thought but I've had new chapters of my personal drama play out so I got kind of sidetracked :(
You focus on dram and I'll redo the PS; what's a few more pages when you've written hundreds (literally)?
:o
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The Roesonean family tree needs some updating (everyone's listed in relation to Marlae and Aruvor's missing).
Also, I'd like to know the age of the fabled and "most wanted" widow Coriel as well as if some other families have daughters of marrying age (if its not too much trouble).
It says that SASI, SRT and PCE form the guilder council. What about BC, are they excluded (and thus taxable 8))?
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From BR Wiki:
Proudglaive: Proudglaive is a city of ten thousand citizens. Proudglaive is also a port city, located on the deep Spider River, and even large ocean-going vessels can be seen tied up at its wharves. Michael Agnelie is the citys lord mayor, although he reports to the castellan in nearby Blacktower Castle.
Proudglaive lies on the farthest point of the Spider River that is navigable by ocean-going vessels, and many docks and wharves line the riverfront. The meat, produce, wool and leather of the local farmlands find their market here. With a budding middle class, Proudglaive also offers services of craftsmen and experts not found in other parts of the barony.
Is this true for RoE? Not that I'd start with an already built port in Caercas (I'm not munchkiing), but that it would be possible to build one there?
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Ah now, that looks like an advisory matter. Perhaps a research action.
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LOL, I doubt I'd need to ask an adviser whether there are ocean going ships parked under my castle and if there are wharves there. I'm not too old to look through the window of Blackgate Castle :D
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And I thought you weren't munchkining ;D
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LOL, I'm not. I'm merely asking whether Proudglaive is a port city (could have been unintentionally omitted in my yet-to-be updated PS) which is a factual matter. If it isn't at the moment, I'll take the actions necessary should I want to turn it into one :) However, port or no port, if big trade ships tend to drop by or approach the city for deliveries or whatnot, that would be known.
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All provinces 4+ are port provinces. So yes, Caercas has a port, and yes, you can take medium ships up the river (but not heavy ones). Abbatuor should be listed as having a Port structure.
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Work is now well under way with Roesone; it finally gets the attention it deserves as THE iconic BR realm. I'm up to 20 pages now, should be around 25 when finished. I'm fleshing out the last provinces now, then Assets are next. After that a little general cleaning and it should be done.
Robert: If you have more on those AAs of yours and want it included, please let me known.
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Yey, great news! I'll check what I sent you already and see if I have some more on my laptop this evening.
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Btw: Remember that list of NPC units I sent you during the adventure? Do you have it?
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All sent :)
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Good man!
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I've finished PS Roesone; Robert and Jon may look at if first before I upload it.
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I'll send you my remarks this afternoon. I was at work the whole day yesterday.
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A new and GREATLY expanded version of Roesone has been uploaded; I quite like it. Ideally all realms should have something like this.
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Nice. Me like. 3 edition should give more space to the state faith ::)
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Hahaha; no, seriously, I think that is best left to the PS of IHH.
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And again ArvOUr har mysterioulsy changed his name to ArvUOr. ::)
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At least I'm still championing the proper spelling, Rune, and I've made sure to correct any character that says otherwise. ;)
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By the grace of Allmighty Haelyn; let me find the strenth to use Replace All...
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How much of the new material was DM-written and how much by Robert?
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Most of it was DM written, only some NPC bits were added by me.
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All hail the Productive DM!
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All hail the Productive DM!
The fact that this document was promised during the previous chapter to the previous player of Roesone is a small detail we should all forget about ::)
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And again ArvOUr har mysterioulsy changed his name to ArvUOr. ::)
http://www.birthright.net/brwiki/index.php/Arvuor_Raemel
LOL
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I hate you.
Edit:
Added by Nameless One, i.e. Milo Raić, i.e. inspired by RoE Arvour
i.e. based on Bjørn's original misspelling.
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Feel free to correct the wiki Robert, it's as much yours as anyone else's :)