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Prepare realm spell
« on: December 14, 2008, 09:52:16 AM »
I'm contemplating making Prepare Realm Spell available as a realm action; where you'd spend 1 court action per extra spell prepared. This should allow magic-users to recover their spells more quickly, provided they maintain decent courts. In practice this would benefit priests the most, as well as those mages who are also landed and have decent courts. Not sure if that's a good match.

Anyway, this obviously adds to spell-caster power, but in practice spell-casters are limited by available GB - and more important - RP; even a high-level caster has only so many RP income each turn, and realm spells eat up your RP frighteningly fast. So this reduces the utility of regaining spells quickly.

The problem is that this new realm option doesn't require anything; there is no DDC, so there is no risk associated with using it...and that I don't like.

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Re: Prepare realm spell
« Reply #1 on: December 14, 2008, 03:16:40 PM »
I personally I think it is a pretty cool rule.

I don't think it is neccessary to tie a failure rate, but rather associate an additional GB/RP cost to realm spells prepared with a realm action.
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Re: Prepare realm spell
« Reply #2 on: December 14, 2008, 03:19:12 PM »
There is still the risk of the spell casting itself failing, so it'll counter any tendency for abuse somewhat.
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Re: Prepare realm spell
« Reply #3 on: December 14, 2008, 03:27:22 PM »
And there is still the problem of RP...
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Re: Prepare realm spell
« Reply #4 on: December 14, 2008, 03:37:43 PM »
There is still the risk of the spell casting itself failing, so it'll counter any tendency for abuse somewhat.

I should say that while the rules state this is true, in all the turns I played, not once did a realm spell I or a LT cast fail...
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Re: Prepare realm spell
« Reply #5 on: December 14, 2008, 03:44:42 PM »
How many of the spells you cast were would actually be considered an action against another temple? As soon as there are a few Protection From Realm Magic out there, lots of spells start failing. I'm not sure we'd want to have Bless Land have a significant risk of failure.
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Re: Prepare realm spell
« Reply #6 on: December 14, 2008, 04:28:29 PM »
How many of the spells you cast were would actually be considered an action against another temple? As soon as there are a few Protection From Realm Magic out there, lots of spells start failing. I'm not sure we'd want to have Bless Land have a significant risk of failure.

Very few people utilized the realm magic rules and spells last time; protection form realm magic was very rarely cast, even though it is extremely useful.
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Re: Prepare realm spell
« Reply #7 on: December 14, 2008, 04:38:10 PM »
Uh, the ETN/IHH went realm spell crazy against the TCB.  Protection from Realm Magic, Conversions, Bless the Sacred Holding, Dispel Magic.  It was 4 turns of very intense realm spells, contests, and rule actions.

Realm spells against the LPA.
Realm spells against the ETN.
Cure spells.

Never once, though did I cast spells like Aid the Blessed Army, or Bless Army.
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Re: Prepare realm spell
« Reply #8 on: December 14, 2008, 04:47:40 PM »
I'd put that down to a well executed plan rather than the inherent lack of risk associated with spell casting. If the TCB had been better prepared/more evenly matched, the outcome could have been quite different.
The fact that Diemed conquered Medoere does not mean that warfare is without risk ;)
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Re: Prepare realm spell
« Reply #9 on: December 14, 2008, 04:56:31 PM »
I'd put that down to a well executed plan rather than the inherent lack of risk associated with spell casting. If the TCB had been better prepared/more evenly matched, the outcome could have been quite different.
The fact that Diemed conquered Medoere does not mean that warfare is without risk ;)

Good point.
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Re: Prepare realm spell
« Reply #10 on: December 22, 2008, 01:29:55 AM »
I'm contemplating making Prepare Realm Spell available as a realm action; where you'd spend 1 court action per extra spell prepared. This should allow magic-users to recover their spells more quickly, provided they maintain decent courts. In practice this would benefit priests the most, as well as those mages who are also landed and have decent courts. Not sure if that's a good match.

Anyway, this obviously adds to spell-caster power, but in practice spell-casters are limited by available GB - and more important - RP; even a high-level caster has only so many RP income each turn, and realm spells eat up your RP frighteningly fast. So this reduces the utility of regaining spells quickly.

The problem is that this new realm option doesn't require anything; there is no DDC, so there is no risk associated with using it...and that I don't like.

Input?

Is this going to be a rule?  I would like to start planning my actions, if at all possible.

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Re: Prepare realm spell
« Reply #11 on: December 22, 2008, 01:36:01 AM »
Is this going to be a rule?  I would like to start planning my actions, if at all possible.

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Re: Prepare realm spell
« Reply #12 on: December 22, 2008, 08:32:16 AM »
It's been included in the RG, so I guess the rule will be used...
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