Author Topic: Navigable rivers  (Read 2925 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline X-MOC/Leman States (Even)

  • Ser Engineer
  • Former players
  • Regent
  • *****
  • Posts: 501
  • Regency: 16
  • Patriarch Leman States
Navigable rivers
« on: March 11, 2012, 11:33:00 AM »
Is there a map version showing navigable rivers, or how far up various ships can go? I seem to remember that there was a forum post covering this, but cannot find anything.
"We are RuinsofEmpire now, and when we act, we create our own reality."

Offline X-Osoerde (Alan)

  • The Dragon
  • Former players
  • Sovereign
  • ******
  • Posts: 1.394
  • Regency: 21
  • Gender: Male
Re: Navigable rivers
« Reply #1 on: March 11, 2012, 04:27:05 PM »
E, there was a map like this I think. Though I don't have it in my RoE stuff.  I will need to scrounge through backups...
Yes, wyrmling, the meat is made all the more tender by armor...

Offline DM B

  • Green Knight
  • Deity
  • Emperor
  • *
  • Posts: 5.210
  • Regency: 51
  • Gender: Male
    • Twilightpeaks.net - Hone of Ruins of Empire
Re: Navigable rivers
« Reply #2 on: March 11, 2012, 05:53:03 PM »
Err...I'm not entirely certain. There may have been a map at one time.

Maesil: You can drive big ships up to Moere. If you want to pass the bridges there you need the permission of Baron Moere; cuz you have to pass under where he has nasty artillery and chains and stuff. If you get past there you could make it as far as Endier without trouble.
DM Bjørn

Offline X-Ghieste & HOT/GH (Matt)

  • Former players
  • Regent
  • *****
  • Posts: 717
  • Regency: 38
  • Gender: Male
  • Duke Ghorien Hiriele of Ghieste, Guilder of H/OT
Re: Navigable rivers
« Reply #3 on: March 11, 2012, 07:25:28 PM »
Certainly Ghieste/Ghiere is described as a substantial port on the Maesil, that historically served as the centre of the grain trade for the Empire.
His Grace Ghorien Hiriele,
Duke of Ghieste,
Grand-Maester of the Highland/Overland Traders,
Viscount of Whyrthe.
Down Right Evil Bastard!

Offline DM B

  • Green Knight
  • Deity
  • Emperor
  • *
  • Posts: 5.210
  • Regency: 51
  • Gender: Male
    • Twilightpeaks.net - Hone of Ruins of Empire
Re: Navigable rivers
« Reply #4 on: March 11, 2012, 08:04:09 PM »
Certainly Ghieste/Ghiere is described as a substantial port on the Maesil, that historically served as the centre of the grain trade for the Empire.

Certainly; but there are lots of river ships. I think Even was think about how far you could run a galleon up-river.
DM Bjørn

Offline X-Ghieste & HOT/GH (Matt)

  • Former players
  • Regent
  • *****
  • Posts: 717
  • Regency: 38
  • Gender: Male
  • Duke Ghorien Hiriele of Ghieste, Guilder of H/OT
Re: Navigable rivers
« Reply #5 on: March 11, 2012, 08:47:43 PM »
Good point. Well made ;)
His Grace Ghorien Hiriele,
Duke of Ghieste,
Grand-Maester of the Highland/Overland Traders,
Viscount of Whyrthe.
Down Right Evil Bastard!

Offline DM B

  • Green Knight
  • Deity
  • Emperor
  • *
  • Posts: 5.210
  • Regency: 51
  • Gender: Male
    • Twilightpeaks.net - Hone of Ruins of Empire
Re: Navigable rivers
« Reply #6 on: March 12, 2012, 09:13:17 AM »
As a general rule you do not run your heavy ships up rivers at all. Usually not the medium ones either. I mean, why would you? River province (and coastal provinces for that matter) are assumed to have lots of ships baked into province/holding levels. You don't need those ships to ferry troop across river or carry supplies. And knowing that I would rather have my galleon near the seas, where it is useful, than up some river where all sorts of bad things could happen.

A couple of exceptions come to mind though; take Aerenwe. Calrie is up-river and ship have to move up and down river to get to/from the sea. But then again Calrie is classified as a coastal province so the point is sorta moot.

Light ships travel more freely on rivers. A staple of Rjurik raiders is rowing inland and making raids. Rives you access to a lot of Cerilia that way. Not so common these days though. The Vos have tried to take up that tradition - but only of on the Dragon Coast, so no worries.
DM Bjørn