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: Navigable rivers
: X-MOC/Leman States (Even) March 11, 2012, 11:33:00 AM
Is there a map version showing navigable rivers, or how far up various ships can go? I seem to remember that there was a forum post covering this, but cannot find anything.
: Re: Navigable rivers
: X-Osoerde (Alan) March 11, 2012, 04:27:05 PM
E, there was a map like this I think. Though I don't have it in my RoE stuff.  I will need to scrounge through backups...
: Re: Navigable rivers
: DM B March 11, 2012, 05:53:03 PM
Err...I'm not entirely certain. There may have been a map at one time.

Maesil: You can drive big ships up to Moere. If you want to pass the bridges there you need the permission of Baron Moere; cuz you have to pass under where he has nasty artillery and chains and stuff. If you get past there you could make it as far as Endier without trouble.
: Re: Navigable rivers
: X-Ghieste & HOT/GH (Matt) March 11, 2012, 07:25:28 PM
Certainly Ghieste/Ghiere is described as a substantial port on the Maesil, that historically served as the centre of the grain trade for the Empire.
: Re: Navigable rivers
: DM B March 11, 2012, 08:04:09 PM
Certainly Ghieste/Ghiere is described as a substantial port on the Maesil, that historically served as the centre of the grain trade for the Empire.

Certainly; but there are lots of river ships. I think Even was think about how far you could run a galleon up-river.
: Re: Navigable rivers
: X-Ghieste & HOT/GH (Matt) March 11, 2012, 08:47:43 PM
Good point. Well made ;)
: Re: Navigable rivers
: DM B March 12, 2012, 09:13:17 AM
As a general rule you do not run your heavy ships up rivers at all. Usually not the medium ones either. I mean, why would you? River province (and coastal provinces for that matter) are assumed to have lots of ships baked into province/holding levels. You don't need those ships to ferry troop across river or carry supplies. And knowing that I would rather have my galleon near the seas, where it is useful, than up some river where all sorts of bad things could happen.

A couple of exceptions come to mind though; take Aerenwe. Calrie is up-river and ship have to move up and down river to get to/from the sea. But then again Calrie is classified as a coastal province so the point is sorta moot.

Light ships travel more freely on rivers. A staple of Rjurik raiders is rowing inland and making raids. Rives you access to a lot of Cerilia that way. Not so common these days though. The Vos have tried to take up that tradition - but only of on the Dragon Coast, so no worries.